Kail Lowry says that her first baby daddy Jo Rivera refuses to contribute money toward their son Elliott’s needs and wants.
The former Teen Mom star answered questions from her listeners on Friday’s episode of her Barely Famous podcast. After a listener asked Kail how her co-parenting journey with her assortment of baby daddii was going, particularly the ones she shares her older children with, Kail revealed that Jo has not paid for much of their 16-year-old’s expenses, and that she now feels Jo shouldn’t get a say in some parenting decisions if he’s not contributing financially.
“He has not contributed to [Elliott’s] cellphone, co-pays, haircuts, prom outfit, homecoming outfit, car nothing,” she said. “He’s contributed to nothing so as far as I’m concerned, this is what it is.
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“…This is not to s**t on anyone,” she added. “This is just to give some perspective of where we’re at… Jo doesn’t pay for anything. In full transparency, Jo pays for nothing… he literally never asks me if I need his [financial] contribution anywhere.”
(Kail didn’t state whether or not she is receiving child support from Jo for Elliott.)
Kail then started to talk about how she recently bought Elliott a car, something she says Jo did not help with. She also revealed that Elliott asked for a Jeep for his 16th birthday, something Kail said she was OK with.
“In my opinion, I owe Elliott the entire world,” she said. “I would not be where I am without Elliott. I would not have sought out certain opportunities that I have gotten if it was not for him, and getting pregnant with him. Having him on TV, he didn’t really sign up for any of that. So, I feel like anything Elliott wants, he gets.”
According to Kail, though, Jo doesn’t feel the same way.
“Elliott said he had mentioned to his dad that he wanted a Jeep and his dad immediately was like, ‘No, I’m not allowing you to drive a Jeep’ for whatever reasons there may be, not sure,” Kail said, adding that she later texted Jo to let him know she was going car shopping with Elliott.
When Jo responded that he and Kail needed to have a bigger conversation about Elliott’s car before one was purchased, Kail told him that she would only talk to him about it if Jo was contributing money toward the car.
“If you contribute to Elliott’s vehicle, I would be willing to talk about it,” she said. “I was left on ‘read’ and I never spoke to him about the car again… he did not contribute. I paid for the car in its entirety. I plan to pay for the insurance, for everything in it, I got him an emergency kit for it. I got him all kinds of things. Elliott is taking driver’s ed. ”
Kail said that she didn’t get Elliott the Jeep he initially wanted, due to his dad being against it.
“Just to the circumstances of [Jo] not contributing to it at all, I don’t feel like he had any other say, in my opinion” she said.
Earlier this month, Kail shared a video to social media of her presenting the car keys to Elliott.
@kaillowry How is he old enough to drive?🥲 @@Isaac Elliott Rivera ♬ original sound – Kail Lowry
She stated on her podcast that she still has no idea how Jo feels about the car she bought Elliott.
“And, quite frankly, I don’t give a f**k,” she said.
This is certainly not the first time Kail has spoken out about the very strained relationship she has with Jo. On a December episode of her Coffee Convos podcast, Kail stated that she and Jo disagree regarding how to parent Elliott now he’s a teenager. Kail and Jo have split custody of Elliott— something Kail says she and Jo need to reconsider once Elliott begins driving.
“Fifty/fifty [custody], the older they get, doesn’t work for us… 50/50 is not ideal,” she said. “[Elliott] does not want to settle down at one of our houses and then get up a week later and have to go to the other [parent’s house]… 50/50 [custody] doesn’t work but also the kids deserve to have the option [to be with their dad].”
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In April 2025, Kail said she and Jo have no co-parenting relationship and instead communicate with Elliott individually, rather than each other. As fans will remember, Kail had a very public falling out with Jo’s wife Vee Torres in 2024, resulting in the end of their Baby Mamas No Drama podcast.
Kail recently named both Jo and Vee (as well as Jo’s mom Janet, and Javi Marroquin and Chris Lopez— two more of her baby daddii) as people who will not be allowed to attend her funeral. Earlier this month the mom of seven claimed that she has even legally updated her will to state that the people on this list will need to be thrown out, should they try to attend Kail’s funeral.
Jo has not publicly responded to Kail’s latest claims about his lack of financial contribution to Elliott.
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Correct me if I’m wrong. They share 50/50 custody right? I’m sure he pays for his expenses when he is with him. If she wanted to buy Isaac the car then buy it. Why do we need to know what Jo didn’t do?
Jo is smart w his money. He’s got like 10+ houses he owns and rents out. He makes smart financial choices & will be sitting pretty down the road.
I dont know the inns and it’s of the child support situation with Eliot. Kail and Jo have income disparities though and differences of opinion on parenting.
Giving your child everything they want is not healthy for the child. They grow up entitled.
But also not paying for things such as a haircut and setting a prom budget is also being a bit cheap. My parents never funded prom or got me a new car (i had an old beater). I never went to prom but my siblings used their own money from working jobs to pay for prom expenses. I chose to use my saved money on a different car when i was 18 and had moved out. Eliot could save up his own money to pay for prom, is my point.
I think its weird they dont communicate to parent, thats very unhealthy.
You know Kail, I don’t want to hear SHIT about how Jo didn’t pay for half of Elliotts brand new car or his “esthetician” (eyeroll) appointments… First off, I bet Jo has given her child support. Second, She is the one raising these kids to be entitled, bougie ass, I-get-what-I-want kids because that is the life she has given them. I don’t know many teens that get BRAND new cars. Hell, I have never owned a BRAND NEW car. A new USED car? Sure. Try being a single mom, that has not brought one man into your youngest’s life (he’s 6) and ONE man into your older two’s (Twin 13 year olds) lives, who works her butt off, and gets no child support from the youngest’s dad. I make decent money but with three children, I struggle. And I have to WORK for my pay. Just like MANY other single moms. WE struggle and we WISH we saw ANY money because it’s needed. If I made a little more a year I probably wouldn’t even ask for it at all. You don’t NEED Jo’s money, so what exactly is your point? All I care about is my boys needs are met and that they have a good relationship with their dad’s- money isn’t a part of that. And by needs, I mean they get the basics. Acne? They get facewash or go to a health insurance covered dermatologist. Not a “facial” at an esthetician. Their car when they turn 16? Probably mine or their dad’s old car. Hopefully in addition to teaching them to live an extravagant lifestyle, she is also teaching then that they will need to work their BUTT’S off because they will not be getting an MTV special about them. SMH
You sound like a good mom, sir poops a lot. Hope you are hanging in there, stuff is rough out there. I bet your kids will be raised to have a work ethic, and appreciate what they have earned with that work. Take care 🙂
I’m out of the loop, why is Isaac being called Elliot now?
When he came out as gay, he changed his name then
Ah ok, thanks. Wonder why he felt the need to do that.
Its his middle name & he wanted to distance himself from Teen Mom I believe is what I heard him say.
She’s delusional and psycho. I feel bad for her kids and anyone involved with her.
It’s strange that she grew up poor, but still doesn’t understand how extremely priviliged and intitled she sounds(and acts). Does she really want to teach her kids that money = absolute power?
Yes, because then they will cede power to her.
She seems VERY codependent, but hopefully im wrong and she is teaching them to be autonomous adults, work ethic etc. I haven’t watched enough to be sure, but she needs to stop bring every tom, dick, and harry around her kids.
Nevermind on the optimism, judging by the comments of those who have wtaymore her kids gonna need all the therapy.
Good for you, Jo! Let her pay for everything- she gets paid to whine.
I wonder if she will ever realize that she is the common denominator here.
I swear she is only doing this to be talked about, she makes so many ‘enemies’ just by being the way she is! And WHY film Elliott’s reaction for the world to see, you obv see he knows he is being filmed, he has done it for basically all of his life. Also the way she so publicly outed him?! JUST LET HIM BE A TEEN! I know he wants to try out drama or theater but just let him be…he doesn’t need camera shoved in his face all the time (So Isaac prob filmed this I guess)
I am starting to think that some of her pregnancies weren’t “oopsie babies”, she just wanted as many as possible so she could fight all of these baby daddies. Jo is the best of them and if you can’t get along not even with him…that is def on you. (Also Javi is def not as bad as she tries to show him-yes, he is a jerk but he seems to love Lincoln and that’s all that matters…I am not wasting time for Chris tho! Oh, Elijah will be next, I bet, when the kids grow a bit older, there will be sth to complain no doubt)
When Jo would send her “I want to talk about Elliott’s wedding but only when you pay half and do mostly what I want for the wedding” in the future, she would blast Jo.
She is so delusional. No average American father/husband, who is actively raising his own separate family, could ever match a Kail Lowry financially. She can take in a bum she just met who doesn’t care for HIS OWN children, but then drags her sons father for not shelling out unnecessary funds, for the lavish lifestyle SHE wants to to give him.
This right herr!! Very well said 💯
She’s going to regret all of this one day. She is so bullheaded and arrogant because she has money (for now), she doesn’t realize that any interest in her is connected to TM. Her way of life is not sustainable, the hard fall will be so humbling and all the while Jo and Vee will be chillin’ and living a stable, drama-free life.
So true. The way she goes thru “partners ” she’ll be talking to an AI version of herself in 2040 ahahahaha
Karl,
Please stop taking credit for anything other than the therapy your children will need because of the chaos you created.
You don’t get to rewrite history.
You don’t get to wear the martyr crown.
And you don’t get praise for surviving fires you lit yourself.
Being loud doesn’t make you right. Being emotional doesn’t make you accountable. And playing the victim doesn’t erase the damage.
You don’t get to claim “I did my best” while refusing to heal.
You don’t get to say “it was for the kids” while putting them in the middle.
You don’t get to demand grace while offering none.
Children don’t need a hero who thrives on control.
They need a parent who can self-reflect, repair, and take responsibility without deflection.
Accountability isn’t an attack.
Boundaries aren’t disrespect.
And consequences aren’t cruelty.
When your children need therapy because of emotional instability, manipulation, or constant conflict… own that. Sit with it. Fix it.
Don’t weaponize their pain to protect your ego.
Healing starts when the performance stops.
And no…. being the loudest in the room doesn’t make you the most loving parent.
💯✅🙌
Wow 😳well said.
You had me at “Karl”.
It’s interesting she acknowledges she is where she is due to having a baby so young, but still won’t say she owes everything she has to MTV.
Must make sense to her (and no-one else).
I bet Jo regrets every decision he made when dating Kail 🤦♀️
We always did two things for our kids to set them up in life.
We bought each a car and we paid for the first initial schooling- if they changed direction, that was on their dime.
“I spoil my kid because I’m only rich because I’ve exploited him since before he was born. His dad is shit for not doing the same.”
Common knowledge is jeeps aren’t the safest vehicle, especially for a first time teenage driver. A parent knows this (Jo!!!). kail of course will buy a jeep(like Maci) bc it’s trendy. If she wants to take on that enormous expense, that’s on her. Jo shouldn’t have to buy his teenager a CAR! Idk about anyone else but I would never have dared to ask my parents to buy me a car as a teen.
That being said, kail should of course still talk with her son and Jo about the car, all together. Establish ground rules, safety expectations, curfew. Just bc Jo isn’t contributing to a car doesn’t mean a car is not a dangerous machine being given to an inexperienced child.
Must be very hard to be jo and vee. Kail is insufferable.
“The 2023 Jeep Wrangler earns a 4-star overall safety rating (out of 5) from the NHTSA.”
Unless he plans on going off-roading with his Wrangler, it is considered a safe vehicle.
Agreed. I have never heard someone say that Jeeps aren’t safe. I bought a Jeep Cherokee because a friend of mine rolled hers on ice and she walked away with just bruises ribs, despite the fact that she rolled it.
Also, just from peeking at the video, the car appears to be a Compass, which is a smaller, more modest Jeep. It’s not like the kid asked for a Maserati.
Either way…carry on fighting Kail 😂
Jeeps are money pits, I have had a few. I work in a career where they are the preferred RHD vehicle for work, and two of my coworkers have brand new ones. One had to be taken back to dealer b/c of death wobble. It’s not a good choice for a teenager’s first vehicle.
Death wobble?
[Takes Elliot to Subaru dealership]
“Surprise! It’s the sweet spot of safe *and* LGBT friendly. FYI if you feel like petting any dogs I’ve seen three since we pulled in.”
(Seriously though, my Impreza can legit drive on straight-up ice and fits as much as the Forrester. And the dealership is in fact hilariously dog-friendly)
She can buy her kids all she wants, but she doesn’t get to decide his time with his father. Maybe he doesn’t want him to have a Jeep, it’s not the safest truck on the market. I wouldn’t buy a Chrysler product if you paid me!! Sometimes parents don’t get to dictate everything in their children’s lives! He is going to be so spoiled, he doesn’t have to give into everything that they want.
I can’t imagine how infuriating it must be for Jo (and Vee, for that matter) to have to co-parent with Kail. Kail was always going to buy Issac whatever car he wanted no matter the cost, and she could care less about Jo’s feelings on the matter. Jo’s screwed either way, he will never win with her. Jo not taking the bait and not responding to her online pettiness just shows how much more character he has.
Imagine every time your parents had a fight about you, it becomes entertainment for the world to consume. That poor kid. This is no way to live.
she talks so much shit about her harem of baby daddies (I hate that term, but the show fits, solace that mf up Kail ) . but she wasn’t talking shit when she was having all their semen demons. stfu Kail
Omg, semen demons! 😂😂😂😂
I appreciate The Ashley’s use of baby daddii 🤣
i believe her tbh, there was a whole storyline where jo asked kail for child support and they eventually settled it out of court and she started helping jo pay for his expenses regarding isaac (i think she helped pay for his insurance?) and later on jo admitted he was still going to need more financial help
Isn’t that legal though? If one parent is super rich, they should be the ones paying child support.
there was no point in child support for either party at this point because they had 50/50 custody which they both agreed, kail just never took jo off until he brought it all up and she ended up paying him back all the child support back since their agreement
And Jo still wears sweat pants on Sundays too!
I’m sure Elliott probably doesn’t want private personal business blasted on a podcast. He didn’t sign up for his privacy to be violated yet she keeps doing it.
She’s actually disgusting. This is parental alienation. Why is she CONSTANTLY disparaging her children’s fathers. She makes how much more than him? She doesn’t NEED his money. She buys her children’s love anyway
You would think at some point the courts would smack her ass down with the amount of disparaging shit-talking she does on those BDs. It’s not like it’s hard to find!! Out there for all the world to see.
Agree entirely.