Kail Lowry revealed this week that she may be taking a trip to Texas in the near future in the hopes of finding closure, as well as the answers to many questions she has regarding her family life, upbringing and more.
On Tuesday’s episode of her Karma & Chaos podcast, the former Teen Mom 2 star shared with listeners that she’ll soon be “joining the dead dads club,” as her father, Raymond Lowry, is suffering from stage 4 chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). While Kail confirmed to her friend and podcast co-host Becky Hayter that she already feels as though she’s a part of this “club,” due to the fact that she’s been estranged from her father for years, she admitted that she still feels “conflicted” about the situation.
“I feel like it’s layered,” Kail explained, noting that she learned about her father’s condition through her aunt, who also revealed to Kail that Ray is currently receiving Hospice care. “ … it’s layered in that, obviously I don’t have a relationship with him and never did, but I feel like I didn’t ever get the answers that I’ve been looking for … .”
As you may remember, MTV followed along as a pregnant teenage Kail traveled to Texas to reunite with Ray (for the first time since she was an infant) in 2009 while filming her episode of 16 and Pregnant. The father-daughter reunion ended up going incredibly awkward for Kail– rightfully so, given that infamous locked meat freezer moment. She confirmed this week that she hasn’t seen her father since that 2009 reunion.
The mom of seven– who is also estranged from her mother, Suzi– shared on her podcast that in 2019, she sent her father a message asking if he would take a DNA test, which he allegedly agreed to do. Unfortunately, Kail said that after sending the test to him, her father refused to take it. (She later explained to listeners that she knows Ray is her biological father, but wanted him to take a DNA test, as she has doubts regarding the identity of his biological father.)
“So I’m like, I feel like you don’t get to die without answering all the questions I have,” she said. “ … I want to know why he left. I want to know why he didn’t try harder. I want to know why he just gave up.
“I want to know why he didn’t just give up on me, but then he turned around and did the same thing to my sister,” she continued, referring to her half-sister Mikaila, whom fans met years ago on ‘Teen Mom 2.’
Kail claimed that she and her sister have been told different things by their father, and because of that, she feels like he owes explanations to them both. She also admitted that she’s “mad” at her dad, before going on to mention that she allegedly has other siblings by him that she’s never met.
“I also never got to meet any of my siblings from the Philippines,” she claimed. “Like, I know that will never happen, not that it would have happened if he was staying here.”
When asked if even Ray knows these alleged children, Kail admitted that she’s unsure.
“I mean, I don’t know if he does [know them], but why didn’t you try for them either,” she asked. “I want to know how someone walks through this earth and does the bare minimum to get by in life, and you procreated multiple times and you don’t care.
“I just want to know where your head is at,” she continued. “I want to know how you walked through this earth doing the bare minimum and didn’t give a f**k about anything, not just us, but just in general.”
Becky– whom it was revealed earlier in the episode had lost her father at some point– said she feared Kail wouldn’t get any answers from Ray if she were to confront him, though she encouraged Kail to “do what you need to do.” In response, Kail admitted that she doesn’t want to give her father the “satisfaction” of her coming to see him before he dies.
“Like, you don’t deserve that,” she said. “So, that’s where I’m also like, you don’t get to die without giving me answers, but I also … don’t want to give him the satisfaction of like, I still came through at the end of it all.”
Later on the podcast, Kail– who claimed that she’s “felt like an orphan” most of her life– said that confronting her father would be her way of getting closure, as she doesn’t see herself attending his funeral.
“I could picture myself going down to Texas, talking to him, trying to get answers … and then that’s my closure,” she said. “But I do not have any plans to see him in a funeral [or] viewing, wake, I want no parts of that. I do not give a f**k where you end up. I just need to know these things … .”
While Kail said she believes she will ultimately travel to Texas to see her father, she didn’t give listeners a definitive answer.
Watch a clip from the podcast episode below.
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ummmm no! Fuck him and the fact that he’s dying. She’s entitled to be angry about being abandoned by her POS father. Will she get satisfactory answers? Absolutely not. But she is 100% allowed to show up and scream, yell, name call, all of it after be dipped tf out.
Y’all are so focused on hating Kail that you refuse to make the deadbeat any kind of accountable!
As a child of a deadbeat, I have 0 cares on what he has going on and I won’t even blink an eye when that man dies. BUT I had a dad growing up. He stepped up and raised me from age 4. I took his last name when I got divorced. THAT’S the difference.
Aww, she looks just like him. The “satisfaction” lol calm it down Kail, youre not special
Will someone please buy Mikaila a decent bra.
Becky said it best. Kail can make the trip if she wants, but she’s unlikely to get any closure or answers. His behavior, since she was born, speaks for itself.
What answer would satisfy her? Or anyone in her situation? Nothing bc he is a POS not to just her but to all his children. Acceptance and healing is the only way she can go. No answer will help
Is he a deadbeat that isn’t worth her time? Absolutely
Is she going to get the answers she thinks she wants? Highly unlikely
Is she running out of material for her podcast after she got called out yet again for exploiting her kids while constantly saying she doesn’t exploit her kids? 100%
I can understand why she thinks she wants answers. I can understand her anger, likely even hurt, associated with him, and even her mom. I totally get that he’s scum, has likely never actually been a father, and why that can take a toll on someone over a lifetime. I can fully understand where a lot of her feelings and opinions are coming from.
What I don’t get is some of her (justified, no doubt) comments about him taking the easy way out or making kids and just walking away from responsibility. She’s done that, though not on the same scale, since each of her kids was born. She takes the easy way out of parenting every single day. She has help 24/7 with ALL of her kids, and always has-whether or not it was actually needed (again, this isn’t a knock on her, it’s literally something she says about herself, because it’s the truth). She’s removed herself from a lot of the responsibilities associated with having kids, and even more so associated with having a bunch of kids. It’s wild to me that she doesn’t see the commonalities at all, or even see the way she chooses to be the least amount of “present” as possible in her kids’ lives until she can use it to make money. I know people will say “well she had two deadbeat, horrible parents, so it stands to reason her idea of parenting is flawed”. But she’s had 16 years and 7 kids to do better, and still doesn’t, so that doesn’t fly anymore. She knows it’s a flawed way of parenting, she’s said so herself, I don’t get the never wanting to do better aspect, though.
Maybe it’s time to let go of that anger, hatred, even feelings of betrayal towards someone who is never going to give her what she wants, because he’s a deadbeat, and start focusing on things SHE can do better as a parent so her kids don’t end up feeling the same way about her someday.
I’m no Kail fan but I completely disagree that hiring help as a single parent is similar to completely abandoning multiple children. Was it abandonment when Maci left her newborn daughter with Jen and Larry. Two people who aren’t even her parents? Kailyn doesn’t have any family except a sister she met a few years ago who lives in another state. Of course she would need help with childcare. No one, and I mean no one does it 100% alone.
Please point out where I said it’s similar to complete abandonment of multiple children. I said there are commonalities and that she removes herself from *most* of the parenting in regards to her children, which is something SHE SAID HERSELF. She has said, repeatedly, that she has no mothering or parental instinct at all, so she tries to avoid it as much as possible. Is allowing multiple other people do the bulk of parenting and raising your children even when you’re right there under the same roof better than abandoning them entirely? Of course it is. It’s certainly not leaps and bounds despite being steps above it. Being present in the home isn’t quite the same as being present in most of their lives.
She has had help whether single or not, the entirety of her children’s lives. Other people have always been responsible for the bulk care of her children. They take them places they need to go, take them to their activities, when they do visit a doctor (which is rare, because Kail has said she doesn’t believe in most medical care) it’s someone else who takes them and Kail occasionally tags along.
Care and help is not the same as what Kail has, and you damn well know it. She even knows it and has said so herself. I know what it’s like to be the only parent around (my better half travels for work quite frequently, so I do the bulk of parenting here), especially with a large number of children. I know what it’s like to need a little help here and there, maybe a sitter so you’re not dragging 57 children to a doctors appointment or school event, or simply trying to get shit done without fifteen toddlers on your legs, etc.. I would NEVER begrudge anyone that need for help now and then (though I disagree about no one ever doing it 100% alone, there are millions who do, lol). What she has isn’t that, though. If SHE can admit it’s more than that, not much reason for you to deny it.
You just sound bitter that she can afford to pay for help and you couldn’t.
I chose to be a parent. I chose to be a parent to a bunch of kids. I WANT to be present in their lives. I want the day to day, the activities, the good, bad, ugly and everything in-between. I thoroughly enjoy it all. I don’t want to be someone who hires other people to raise children I chose to be in my family. That said, if you actually read what I typed, you’d note that I fully understand that most folks need help now and then, for all sorts of reasons, and there is nothing at all wrong with paying for that help. I have paid sitters when needed too, like most people.
I do take issue with anyone, regardless of who they are, choosing to pay someone else to do the bulk of raising their kids-and it’s not because I’m jealous they can afford it (that’s just an asinine response). What is the point of having children at all if you intend to be as hands off as possible? What’s worse is continuing to have children when you know you don’t *want* to be the one raising them most of the time. That’s just a disservice to your own kids (which is why I take issue with it). Kids like having good parents who are present in their lives more often than not.
Question: how could he make a bunch of kids just to not care and walk away?
Well, for starters, he met a bunch of women just like Kail, willing to pop out a kid with any loser, and move in to the next loser. Only none of them where on a lucrative reality show.
If she wants answers, just look at Chris. Chris is going to end up on his deathbed with estranged kids wanting answers for sure.
I really feel for her and anyone else in this situation but some people are just shttty parents. The reason why he left is the same as it is for anyone else who abandons their kids, it’s because of who THEY are as a person NOT you. It is never ever the childs fault. There are no magical answers for them to give you that will make it right. And sometimes learning that is the only closure you get.
I do feel for Kail. Being estranged from one or even both of your parents really messes you up. It doesn’t excuse Kail as she is today, but still….
Well ok then. I hope your kids don’t do the same thing to you miss perfect. Kail might’ve gotten a bad hand when it came to parents but so has literally billions upon billions of people for every generation that ever existed. Sure she did well for herself, by a wild chance. Any other broken down girl with a crappy home life could’ve ended up where she is. This is untastefu behavior, even for her.
Her dad is clearly a sack of $h1t. If she wants to go to TX and tell him off on his deathbed, then that’s her prerogative.
I’m no Kail fan, but she sure drew a short straw when it came to parents. Almost as unlucky with parents as Janelle’s kids. Makes sense why she’s so damaged and makes the poor choices that she does. But why did she choose to have unprotected sex at least twice with Chris who is almost as much of a bum as her dad?
Yes, that is so kail. Even on a man’s deathbed, she will make it about her. This is weird and honestly it’s kind of gross. The world will always revolve around Kailyn Lowry in her mind.
He has kids with multiple women. She has kids with multiple men, and she KNEW what she was doing just like he did. Yet apparently she’s the better person because she fell into a TV show and freely exploited herself, her kids, and her horrific decision-making capabilities for all the world to see (and she continues to do so, she’s a classic sell-out). What would have become of her had she not been on MTV…c’mon, we all know 😂 Her history will live on forever through the internet, her kids will see everything yet she continues to do pathetic things for the attention. She keeps nothing private, always thinks she’s right and gets off on trying to humiliate those she thinks “wronged” her. She’s running out of material so she’s going back to the family drama arc to get that attention back on herself, to get that pity. She needs drama and attention to survive. She will always always always be the victim.
He’s a deadbeat, that’s your answer. You can ask any deadbeat in TM and it would be the same answer.
Also is very telling that he has multiple kids with multiple women and now you have multiple kids with multiple men. Focus on that instead so your kids won’t end up resenting you like you resent him.
It might just give more trauma if she talks go him and bring more emotions once he passes. I would not
Eh, I don’t like Kail at all, but as somebody that’s never met my father, I honestly wouldn’t care if he died. I have a lot of questions that will never be answered (even more so, really, because all I had was a name my aunt gave me and then I recently matched with some of his relatives on DNA sites and some reached out to him with my contact information and he never got ahold of me, so I know almost nothing about him). So I’m not gonna hate on her for wanting to be petty to a known deadbeat, but I doubt he’d give her real answers if she went, so it would be a useless trip.
are people forgetting he’s a deadbeat because why people acting like he’s a victim when the other deadbeat dads in this show get all the hate? he had access to her and could’ve had a relationship with her if he wanted yet chose to act like she wasn’t there so if she wants to make him squirm and uncomfortable then that’s up to her
A man dying? On his deathbed? And you think it’s perfectly fine to approach a dying human being with the intentions of “making him squirm” so she can monetize it? Let’s not forget to add it’s the same woman who gave her 7 children a total of 4 different fathers? So when she is dying, should her kids come after her because how dare she die without explaining to them WHY she was so sleezy? Her doing something like this is disgusting enough. But her simps defending it show exactly why they’re her fan base.
Yeah, well, that’s what happens when you are a garbage human being who has abandoned multiple children. He gets no sympathy from me because he’s dying. If she monetizes any part of her going to talk to him him, well, at least that’s some money he contributed to her life. It’s not like he did anything else for her.
I don’t like Kail, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to take up for this deadbeat.
I got a call that my bio dad was dead. He wasn’t in my life & I didn’t care. His sister’s just needed me to sign off so they could have him cremated. I made sure that I wasn’t on the hook to pay for it & signed off because he was nothing to me. I wouldn’t have wasted my time to see him if i had known he was dying either. He was a trash human & so is Kail’s dad. I’m not a fan of her’s but until you’ve been abandoned by a parent, you have no idea what you are talking about. Death doesn’t suddenly make someone a good person. If she needs to see him for closure, then she should.
Look I realize you’re desperate to cling on to your hate for Kail but why are you dumping for a deadbeat? There’s a bit of a difference in Kail and her father in that she’s taken care of every kid she’s produced, her dad has not. While I don’t think it’s a good idea for her to ultimately go down there and confront him because I don’t think she’s get the answers she wants, I don’t blame her for wanting to confront him for not choosing to be a part of her life or even his grandchildren’s lives. He’s not a victim so don’t treat him as such.
He has literally seen her once in her whole life and it was because SHE made the effort to fly to Texas to see him. And he did the same thing to multiple other kids. That’s crazy that you think he should get peace in the end and shouldn’t have to answer for abandoning a bunch of kids.
Unless you’ve had an absentee parent . You will never understand. I met my birth father at 20 years old. When I met him he complained about my mom being a “greedy bitch” for wanting child support. I told him that I could have used. I grew up really poor. Maybe I would have been able to get some food with it. I feel like people are only bashing this because they hate Kail. She has a right to ask him. He’s the one who left. Did he care that she lived with an abusive mother? Did he care whether she had a roof over her head? Obviously not. He’s the bad guy here. Not the victim.
She has a right to ask him, but isn’t the answer obvious? Some people have children and don’t care about them at all. Her father is clearly one of them. Is it going to give her peace for her dying father, who essentially served as a sperm donor, to admit that he doesn’t care about her nor care about being a father?
I totally get what you’re saying. I always knew mine didn’t give a shit about me. I’m not Kail though . So, I don’t know. I guess I’d be pissed off having to hear that shit
I almost feel like she’s hoping he’ll say he regretted everything and wishes that he were a more present father. Which I 1000% understand, but in this situation it seems clear that he never cared. If he ends up claiming he did care, it will just be because he’s a dying man trying to make himself feel like a better person
Exactly!!!! Thank you!!!
The guy is dying she should lay off
Lay off? She could haunt him the rest of his days and it still wouldn’t make up for him abandoning her and multiple other kids. He’s a garbage human, the fact he’s dying doesn’t change that. It’s gonna be awfully hot where he’ll end up
mmmm NAH! You don’t get a pass for being a POS deadbeat just because you’re dying.
Going to Texas is a waste of her time.. he won’t answer her questions. Im pretty sure my dad is also dying and my thoughts on it are peace. Enjoy hell bitch”
Not everyone is the same though. I don’t give a f if my birth father dies. I probably won’t even know. He’s not on my BC and all he has is a sister he hates. lol. I lived without him my entire life. I can’t “miss” someone that I don’t know.
“BC”?
Birth Certificate
The guy is dying fuck her questions and what answers she has .
Just proves what everyone says about her, she is a real piece of shit. What this hoe won’t do for money.
I’m pretty sure you’ve been on here spouting off your mindless bullshit constantly. You say you have sons. Why is it that you don’t just leave your kids? Do you think the people around you would be like “ok, that’s fine.” So, it’s ok for Kail’s dad to abandon her, but if anyone else has a parent that goes mia, that’s not ok?
Don’t give her attention. She’s vile. She can’t go more than two days without jumping on here to call other women “hoes” and “whores.” She has sons? Yikes. Any future daughter in law is in for hell. Anita doesn’t like other women. She’ll have valid reasons RIGHT THERE to dislike someone and instead of using her big girl words and logic she’ll just immediately yell “WHORE!”
Oh I’m aware! lol. She told me I’m a “piece of shit and can understand why my family didn’t want me.” Little did she know. She was late to that party.
Yes. She says she hates her sons and they’re just like their dad. She probably doesn’t have kids.
Thanks! I shouldn’t have taken the bait. I know better.
Oh, PS, Lester is probably a hoe, ho, hoe, too!
Kail, I suggest you focus on your giant gaggle of children. How the hell could you even have the TIME to cause even more issues. I feel so unbelievably bad for each of her children because there is NO WAY each one is consistently getting their needs met by her. It’s obvious she is taking the easy/lazy way and to top it off she is incredibly self absorbed and negative! Go find some peace Kail!