Catelynn Lowell’s Mom April Reveals How She Feels About Catelynn Being Cut Off from Bio Daughter Carly; Spills Tea About Adoption Counselor Dawn

“I ain’t trust none of them fancy people!”

Catelynn Lowell has had a lot to say about being cut off from her biological daughter, Carly, and now Cate’s mother April is giving her thoughts on the situation— and spilling some behind-the-scenes tea about Catelynn’s trusty adoption counselor Dawn!

April apparently has a podcast now, alongside Cate’s youngest brother Nick Radtke. (The Ashley never thought she’d see the day where April from ‘Teen Mom’ has a podcast but…here we are.)

Anyway, during the first episode, April revealed how she feels about Carly’s parents, Brandon and Teresa Davis, and their decision to stop communicating with Cate and her husband Tyler Baltierra.

Fans will remember that April was very against Catelynn and Tyler placing Carly for adoption after her 2009 birth, even taking Cate and Ty to court (along with her then-husband Butch Baltierra) to try to block the adoption. (In 2024, Tyler spoke about Butch and April’s attempt to keep them from adopting out Carly, stating, “Our parents actually fought us in court. They were withdrawn from drugs in the back of the courtroom trying to get us to stop doing what we were doing. So, we had to get guardian ad litem appointed to represent us.”)

I can’t believe a judge refused to take this motley crew seriously in court…

Interestingly, April did not take the opportunity to tell her daughter “I told you so” regarding the adoption, even though her predictions about them getting cut out of Carly’s life have essentially come true.

When a fan asks how she feels about Brandon and Teresa cutting off Cate and Ty, April stated that she feels bad for her daughter and son-in-law.

“It makes me sad,” April told Nick. “Like, I don’t really know them people [Brandon and Teresa] to really say anything. It just makes me sad for Catelynn and Tyler and all of us that got to see her and now we can’t.”

“And we still have no clue why!” 

(As The Ashley reported in 2023, April was included in what was to be Cate and Ty’s last in-person visit with Carly. Things went south during the visit after April allegedly cracked open a brewsky, after Catelynn told her there was to be no drinking during the visit with Carly.) 

April said that she has no way of getting in touch with Carly (or her parents).

“It’s not like I can just pick up the phone and call her, email them because I don’t know any of that stuff,” April said. “I don’t think I would do that anyway… I gotta respect them. So, that’s what I’ve always tried to do with them guys.”

“Don’t bring up the fact that she uses ‘them guys’ instead of ‘those guys’…don’t do it Brandon!”
 
Next, a fan asked April if she feels that Catelynn and Tyler would have kept Carly and not placed her for adoption, had they known they were going to be receiving big fat checks from appearing on ‘Teen Mom.’

“I think so. But that’s my opinion,” April said. “They were young. You know, it was a crazy time in their lives. Hard to say.”

After that, April and Nick spilled some tea about Dawn, the adoption counselor used by Cate and Ty during Carly’s adoption. (Dawn has remained a go-between between the two families and remains in contact with Cate and Ty, as well as Brandon and Teresa.)

 “April, what are your thoughts about Dawn and how she behaved at the hospital?” Nick asked, mentioning that fans felt Dawn was heavily pressuring Catelynn and Tyler to place the baby and being pushy to get Carly to Brandon and Teresa.

Although Tyler has defended Dawn and her role in the adoption— even in recent years— it’s clear that April does not feel the same way about the adoption counselor.

“I didn’t like Dawn then,” April said. “I liked her for a little while later on in life and I don’t f**kin’ like her now!”

“Run while you can, Dawn! You do NOT want an angry April after you!”

Nick went on to reveal that April reportedly caught Dawn “talking s**t” about her about three years ago. (We can assume that it was during the visit with Carly in 2023.)

“That was so f**ked up!” Nick said of Dawn’s alleged smack-talking.

“That’s why I don’t like her anymore!” April added.

April went on to regale listeners with the tale, stating that she was in the bathroom when she overheard Dawn allegedly telling someone about a certain someone being “disrespectful.”

“I heard her talking and saying how disrespectful somebody was, and I was like being nosy and I’m like, ‘who’s disrespectful?'” April said.

What Dawn’s face looked like when she realized she was probably about to get boxed by April…
 

“It was me,” April continued. “They were talking about me because I said my son Nicholas was where we were for the visit [with Carly], and that my mother was there too with Nicholas.”

April said came barreling out of the bathroom stall at that point, likely to Dawn’s horror.

“Then when I came out of that stall, she tried to be like ‘Oh, April!’ [and I was like] ‘Get the f**k away from me.'” 

April went on to state that she believed Brandon and Teresa were intimidated by how many people came with Cate and Ty on their last visit with Carly. She claimed it was her, as well as Tyler’s mom Kim and her husband, as well as Cate’s friend, all on the visit.

“People just kept comin’!” she said.

“Teresa, when I walked up to her, she’s like, ‘Who’s all these people?'” April said.

Brandon and Teresa’s faces when they saw that Cate and Ty brought along a large assortment of “the poors” on their visit…probably.

April also addressed the drinking incident that set off a period of estrangement between her and Cate.

“The whole drinking thing, like, oh, it was made to look like I was drunk, which if we all had brains, we would know that for one, Cate and Ty wouldn’t have allowed me to be there drunk,” she said. “… and I’m not that f**king stupid. Okay, I had a one beer. One beer with dinner. Teresa and Brandon were drinking wine. So I drank a beer. That was it. And then we all left after dinner. They went home to their hotel and I went home to mine.”

April stated that, these days, she has a great relationship with Catelynn and Tyler, as well as their three daughters. 

RELATED STORY: ‘Teen Mom’ Star Tyler Baltierra Reveals How He Explains to His Other Daughters That They Were Cut Off from Their Bio Sister Carly: “I Won’t Shy Away from It”

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12 Responses


  1. April still doesn’t understand that SHE is the reason Carly was placed for adoption. Because cate didn’t want Carly to have the life she had, that April made for her. No accountability


  2. Here’s a caring but truthful version, steady and human, with clean wording and no dashes:

    The theme in all of this is what the situation is doing to them, not anything about seeing Carly. There has not been a single accusation that Carly is not being cared for. There has not been a single mention questioning whether she is safe. They avoid those points because they already know the truth. Carly is well, loved, and thriving. Their decision to place her for adoption was the best decision for Cate, for Tyler, and especially for Carly. She is living proof that the right choice was made at a time when two teenagers were hurting in ways most people will never understand. I will always have sympathy for that.

    But the reality is that the reason they cannot see Carly now is because of Cate and Tyler, their choices, and their behavior over the past few years. They cannot see that they are repeating the same patterns they once wanted to protect Carly from. They act completely unaware that they have three other girls living in the middle of the same unhealthy, life altering environment they were trying to escape.


  3. And despite how much of a trashy mess she is she was right and Cate and Ty should have listened her.


  4. Sure, April had one beer to go with Brandon/Theresa’s wine. The problem is the 8 beers April probably had prior to that. Picturing Butch and April together is a bit frightening. I recall a few episodes when they were being really harsh with Cate when she was living with them.


  5. The amount of people Catelynn and Tyler brought along was WILD. I could see bringing Kim because, if I recall correctly, she’s always consistently sent Carly letters and gifts via Dawn, isn’t super trashy and insane, and has a basic understanding of boundaries or at least accountability if she oversteps. But drunk April and a random friend was ridiculous. This is supposed to be your super special visit and you bring half the town.


  6. Is it just me or does anyone else find it hysterical that even April has a podcast and Jenelle still can’t manage to get the one that she swears is coming any day now off the ground? 😉


    1. This is EXACTLY what I was thinking!!! If even a gigantic loser like April has a podcast then that is proof that ANYBODY can have one!! Who in their right mind would actually want to listen to hillbilly trash like April or Caitlyn or her lazy ass husband Tyler on a so called pod cast? LOL! LOL! LOL!


  7. I still can’t get past April and Nick having podcasts. Are podcasts free with a box of cracker jacks?


  8. That abusive drunk has a podcast? You’ve got to be kidding, Caitlyn said she had a big fight with April and we all know it’s because she was told not to drink. She’s an alcoholic. What did she expect? Too many showed up, I agree.


  9. so basically april STILL doesn’t actually understand why it was wrong for her to be drinking in the first place because the drinking incident definitely didn’t come off like she was drunk

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