Weeks after her ex-husband Javi Marroquin fired off a fired-up rant aimed at her on Instagram Live, Kail Lowry is responding to the social media diss and telling her side of the story. (Or at least some of it, anyway.)
As The Ashley told you earlier this month, Javi hopped onto Instagram Live to blast Kail for allegedly neglecting her parental duties for their son Lincoln, while also claiming that Kail was planning to move her (alleged) secret boyfriend into the Delaware home she resides in with all seven of her children. (Javi also all but confirmed during the Live that Kail and her fiancé/fourth baby daddy Elijah Scott had broken up as a result of the cheating scandal that surfaced in March.)
While Kail remained (mostly) tightlipped in the weeks following Javi’s Instagram Live tongue-lashing, she finally addressed the incident on a recent episode of her Coffee Convos podcast, telling listeners that while she didn’t watch Javi’s Live in its entirety, she had seen clips from the rant online and was (seemingly very) aware of the comments that were made about her.
During the episode, Kail acknowledged that while she has often “preached” about being transparent, she wasn’t going to defend who she is as a mom “to any-f**king-body,” adding that she really doesn’t care “what Javi says.”
“ … the people in my life know who I am as a mom, they see me as a mom, they see me showing up for pickup and drop-off,” she said. “If I’m not dropping off [my kids] 30 out of 180 days of school, that doesn’t make me a bad mom. If I’m working and I’m late to practice, that doesn’t make me a bad mom … .”
Kail told listeners that while she has seen comments from people on social media insisting that Javi’s recent statements about her hold “a lot of weight” because they came directly from Javi, there’s a reason she chose not to respond to the claims immediately.
“ … You cannot demand answers from me immediately and simultaneously, if I come forward and I’m emotionally charged and I address every single thing, get mad at me and say, ‘Kail’s the same, she’s raging, she’s denying, she’s lying, she’s deflecting,’” Kail said. “But you just demanded answers from me and you didn’t even give me a chance to process this and do it the right way, according to therapy.”
Kail said that she didn’t call Javi after hearing what he said about her on Instagram Live and instead, sent him a text message asking if he had done a Live about her– a text she claims Javi never responded to. Despite her text going unanswered, Kail said she did go up to Javi’s wife, Lauren Comeau, that same week to ask what her “involvement was in all of that,” to which Lauren told Kail that she had nothing to do with it.
“ … and I feel bad for Lauren, Lauren is not the problem,” Kail told her podcast listeners this week. “She’s never been the problem and really, if you boil it all down, Javi and I have been the problem.”
The mom of seven went on to say that, while people may accuse her of deflecting or attempting to not “have the heat” on herself, she believes that Javi is responsible for any issues she and Lauren have had in the past, claiming that her ex-husband “triangulated” her and Lauren “hating each other this whole time.”
“I don’t care how many times Javi has played victim and how many times I have swallowed my pride and apologized to him,” she said. “But really, when I look at it all now after he did that, I feel bad for Lauren. I feel bad for how I treated her and it really boils down to Javi and myself, but mostly, Javi triangulating all of this so that Lauren and I would hate each other and then [him] playing victim as if Kail was the problem.”
Later in the episode, Kail mentioned a certain topic that Javi allegedly doesn’t want her to speak on– something she claimed to have spoken to her therapist about earlier that day– telling listeners that Lincoln is only thing preventing her from discussing this topic publicly.
“So if [Javi] wants to vilify me to the internet, where ultimately, Lincoln will see [it], and he will talk about my relationship track record, he can talk about my kids’ dads … he doesn’t want it to be normalized and it’s not normal,” she said. “It’s not.”
(As you know, in addition to Lincoln, Kail is a mom to son Elliot with ex Jo Rivera; she also shares sons Lux and Creed with Chris Lopez, and sons Rio and Verse and daughter Valley with Elijah.)
Kail’s co-host, Lindsie Chrisley, also took a moment during this week’s episode to defend Kail, insisting that Javi was incorrect when he claimed in his Live that Kail surrounds herself with people who enable her behavior. Lindsie denied that she or any of Kail’s friends and/or co-workers enable Kail in any way, arguing that Javi doesn’t know what kind of conversations they are all having with Kail.
“ … that’s why it’s called a friendship, that’s why it’s called a private business working relationship,” Lindsie said. “And so, he doesn’t get to have the right to go on Live and say we’re nothing but a bunch of enablers. No the f**k we aren’t, because you aren’t there for the private conversations.”
Kail echoed Lindsie’s sentiments, calling Javi’s statement “f**ked” and assuring listeners that there are “a lot of people” in her life that don’t agree with all of the decisions she makes– or the people she dates, for that matter.
“ … y’all have expressed concerns about my relationships, but that doesn’t mean you stop being my friend,” she told Lindsie.
Surprisingly, Kail later went on to talk about the WaWa gas station photo she posted to social media a day or so after Javi’s Instagram Live rant, claiming that the snapshot wasn’t a dig at Javi (and/or Lauren), but rather a case of her showing some love for a gas station chain she claims she’s been a fan of for years.
As you may remember, Javi was a guest on a March episode of Kail’s Barely Famous podcast, during which the exes discussed Javi’s upcoming move to Virginia and talked about how much their formerly– and somewhat frequently– strained co-parenting relationship had improved in recent months. During the episode, Javi also addressed the issue he has with Kail making jokes about their “interactions” at the WaWa– interactions that allegedly went down while Lauren was pregnant with her and Javi’s son Eli– claiming that the jokes cause “a lot of pain” for himself and Lauren. As a result, Kail vowed to cease the petty petrol posting, only to seemingly go back on that promise in response to Javi’s Instagram Live comments.
This week, however, Kail assured fans that the jokes about Javi and WaWa are “separate” from her “love for WaWa.”
“So when I got on TikTok and did a trend and put [a picture of] WaWa, people were like, ‘Oh, Javi said that you were gonna bring this us, this goes to show you’re still the same person,’” Kail stated. “I was obsessed with WaWa before the ‘Teen Mom’ scene. So the people that came in for the ‘Teen Mom’ scene and think that my association with WaWa has anything to do with Javi, no.
“I just said that I was gonna stop making jokes out of respect for him,” she continued. “I am not going to stop doing anything now. I think he went Live for like, 11 minutes or something like that. The amount of details that he left out about the entire situation– of ALL the situations he listed out– diabolical.”
Kail also noted on the podcast that while she plans to address all of Javi’s claims “line by line” at some point, she is working with her therapist to process everything first in order to be fully transparent about the situation with listeners.
Listen to a clip from Kail’s podcast episode below.
(Photos: MTV; Instagram)
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Kail, Javi, and Lauren are all human beings who made mistakes in their 20s, will continue to make mistakes in their 30s, as well as their 40s-100s because that’s what life is all about. Growing and learning and getting a little bit better from each and every wrong. The only difference between them and any of us, is they got filthy rich for televising their mistakes and gave you all something to do but investing outrageous amounts of judgement and hatred in people you never have and never will meet. Choose peace yall.
All her constant talk about therapy ad yet she’s still batshit…
Essentially she said hidden in circular nonsense:
YES. It’s all true. I’m not in a position to defend it right now.
My friends have already discussed it all with me, they also have the same concerns as javi, just privately.
I can’t be transparent about it all right now. It looks bad. Ive discussed my issues and patterns on this before. I’m in therapy to unpack these choices/decisions Ive made, and IF I do the work and become able to use my therapy words properly and defend my actions…I will.
Otherwise no one can tell me I’m wrong.
I glanced at Lauren and Kail’s pics above and wondered why he would want to cheat. It’s like upgrading from a filthy wild beast to a beautiful princess.
The wildebeest prob takes it in the butt too. Kinky stuff.
“So when I got on TikTok and did a trend and put [a picture of] WaWa, people were like, ‘Oh, Javi said that you were gonna bring this us, this goes to show you’re still the same person,’” Kail stated. “I was obsessed with WaWa before the ‘Teen Mom’ scene. So the people that came in for the ‘Teen Mom’ scene and think that my association with WaWa has anything to do with Javi, no.
she is full of it if she thinks anyone believes this
Never heard her ever mention Wawa
Ms. Piggy will always be Ms. Piggy. Both her and javi are morons. Its like watching the live action dumb and dumber.
Kail and Javi didn’t work out because they’re too much alike. Both of them love to play games and lie. Both controlling. Two toxic AF individuals.
None of what kail said makes any sense & sounds like she just talked in circles. Her explanation left me wondering does she even no what she’s talking about.
She’s a pig, rutting around in her own self-indulgence.
Kailyn is a senseless,demented, manipulative brood sow. She uses all her kids as pawns against the dads that go out of their way to be great dads! What have Joe and Javi done wrong? They want to be present and do what’s right by these kids. We even know she’s pissed all over Chris, but Javi even supports him. The only power she has ever had is making fathers jump her hoops and making unnecessary drama. All these dads should ask for full custody and sue for child support.
Kail is just like her mom… bummer for her kids that she couldn’t break the cycle
Kail isn’t a drunk
If she were a drunk, at least she’d have an excuse. She has no excuse to be the miserable and manipulative sow that she is
Instead of alcohol, she’s addicted to men, drama, and having babies.
It’s that men will trump her kids. How the f*ck can she give each one of her children the attention they need PLUS have a rotation of men constantly coming in and out of her kids lives. She is like her mom because she is self centered.
I don’t care for kails character but one thing she IS NOT, is her mother. She may make many of her own mistakes but she’s a hundred times better of a mother and she’s sober and you can see, despite her many flaws, that she deeply loves her kids.
How does ONE person have so much drama in their life??
Oh that’s right, because she has multiple failed relationships and friendships and she is NEVER the common denominator for their demise.
Get a new therapist Karl.
Seriously?! Two grown ass women with nothing better to do than play my d!¢K is bigger than yours. How sad.
I stand by my statement (which was excessively downvoted) that there is a reason why Javi absolutely does not want Lauren having a co-parenting relationship with Kail. He divides and conquers and wants them to hate each other, so that he can play both of them. He has not changed one bit, he has just been more Templeton the Rat-like in his deception. I don’t even necessarily mean that he wants to have sex with Kailyn; I mean because it benefits him to have an ally when he is angry at one of them. It also helps in the long run for him to be able to fan the flames to deflect his own terrible behavior. “No, Lauren, Kail made me late because she was late.” Meanwhile, he is in the backseat with some random at a new super gas station.
Also, Kail had me sort of believing some of it, until the obvious lie that she just loves WaWa and wasn’t poking at Javi. Yeah, right!
Unfortunately people are so blinded by hating Kail for being Kail, anytime it’s recognized Kail isn’t the only issue it’s going to get downvoted. Like I’m sure this reply will be, haha!
Honestly I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of what Javi and Kail are saying But I do agree, Javi likes to play games, always has. He did with Brianna and Kail back in the day, I doubt he’s changed THAT much since then. It benefits him more to keep Lauren and Kail separated , it makes it easier to manipulate the two.
I don’t get the black and white thinking with these characters.
2 things can be true at the same time.
Kail is a dick.
Javi is a dick.
definitely agree with you. it’s crazy how people don’t see he is capable of being a snake after the whole thing with briana
Oh absolutely. Javi is incredibly toxic. While I believe a lot of what he said about Kail, I have no doubt he triangulates and acts innocent.
I won’t downvote you, but she also hated Vee too. Maybe Javi did make things worse, but Kail has never been rational. She also got mad at Bri & hated her when she started dating Javi too, so I’m not buying all of what she says.
I agree with this. It is evident by how many times Javi has cheated on Lauren (and with Kail) that he plays a big role in making sure they dont like each other. Kail is not blameless but javi is largely responsible.
She lied to her listeners and fans for a year and a half about being pregnant (twice) and even truly went out of her way to flat out lie like we are all dumb. Lost all respect for her after that
Glad those kids have a great network of people around them as kail only seems to concerned with finding the next man to fill in hole in her life and between her legs
Soooo is Wawa in Delaware the same as Buc-ee’s where I’m from? Bc I have never been obsessed with a gas station but I see so many posts about buc-ee’s that i realize ppl are obsessed with gas stations.
Wawas are amazing convenient stores and most in Jersey don’t even have gas (you can’t pump your own gas in Jersey so why have a full convenient store if no one gets out of their car). That said, yes they are kind of Buc-ee’s like for the east coast but no where as big. Their thing is having a full deli with amazing bread (closest thing as an example is Jersey Mike’s bread). They will make to order sandwiches. It’s been years since I’ve lived on the east coast but they were expending the menus to cover more things like breakfast, mac & cheese, soup, salads, and pizzas back then so no telling how many more they’ve added. Those sandwiches…
They have amazing hoagies. They are VERY popular in pockets of the MidAtlantic/NE
As someone who grew up outside of Philly, I’m just pumped you’ve mentioned Wawa so many times that it has its own tag now.
I need to know everyone’s feelings on the gobbler. 😆
What therapists are these women going to? None of them are working.
She is petty AF. Does she really think anyone would buy her posting the WaWa gas station online and no one would believe it was about Javi? She just posted it because of her love for a gas station? Ok, Kail.🙄I don’t know about anyone else but I have yet to post about the Exxon gas station I go to on my social media.
Thinking that no one would attach it to Javi is a bs, but it’s not like she’s pretending to be enamored with Conoco. Just of the couple dozen within Philadelphia city limits I’d wager that at the very, very most half are attached to gas stations.
They have standard convenience store fare. Their coffee is actually pretty decent, and their premade salads are actually good. And oh, the Sizzli.
Their real claim to fame is their made-to-order food. It’s legitimately a restaurant that only has counter service. Imagine being able to access a hot panini made to your exact specifications at (at many locations) any hour of the day or night. A pineapple milkshake. A not-burnt espresso drink ordered at a touchscreen kiosk so you don’t feel like an asshole standing there while you list off the specific milk and number of pumps of syrup you want. THEY HAVE PIZZA.
Didn’t read the article because If Kail said it you know it is a straight up lie. Kail is nothing but a nasty whore, and always will be.
I don’t like Javi but if we are talking about “normal”, what’s not normal is having 4 baby daddies
Can’t Kail just close her legs and go away??
The misogyny is wild. Javi is just as bad as Kail, he claims to hate her but then why did he cheat with her so many times?? He’s just mad she is not giving it up to him. They both are awful but to act like he’s some sort of martyr is laughable
I couldn’t care less about her being late to practices or not dropping off/picking kids up. It’s the MULTIPLE men that she needs to stop fu*king around with. 🤮 She jumps from 1 to the next. Girl, have some respect for yourself & your kids & stop being a sl*t. 🤦♀️ God, I’m scared of what her daughter is going to learn from her. Relationship after relationship is 👋 not 👋 ok! 👋
And she never confirmed or denied those claims, which tbh makes it seem like it’s true. If she wasn’t in another relationship you just KNOW she would comment that!
Kailyn Lowry is 100% the root of ALL of her messy relationships.