Amber Portwood‘s feud with Ashley Jones escalated to a whole new level on Wednesday, with the Teen Mom: The Next Chapter co-stars going head-to-head in an epically nasty battle on TikTok Live.
(And, before you leave the comment asking The Ashley “Don’t you have anything better to do with your time?” allow The Ashley to answer that question right now: No, The Ashley does not.)
Amber and Ashley— who have years’ worth of beef stemming from when they both appeared together on the second season of Teen Mom Family Reunion— have sparred back and forth on TikTok Live over the last few months, but Wednesday marked the first time that the girls actually squared off in real time to battle it out.
As The Ashley previously reported, Ashley ripped Amber last month on TikTok Live after the season finale of ‘Next Chapter’ showed Amber scolding her daughter on-camera. After that, Amber responded to Ashley and the girls have been at each others’ throats online since.
On Wednesday, Ashley posted a message to her TikTok members chat, explaining why she decided to go Live with Amber.
“Don’t listen to people who make it seem like I’m a bully,” she wrote. “I forgave Amber years ago when she said she would mutilate me, and called me a Black b**ch. I HAVE NOT GOTTEN INTO IT WITH ANY CAST MEMBER IN SOOO LONG. But after seeing that finale of her speaking down to Leah, I was fed up. I made a TikTok to which Amber responded. She has been on Live every day and night since then speaking on me, and today when I logged on she was calling me ghetto clown hoodrat. So I responded. I’m not a bully. Let’s stop that narrative.”
Let’s open this flaming dumpster of trash, shall we? The Ashley will do her best to recap what went down between the ‘Teen Mom’ twosome.
Amber — who was (of course) already on TikTok Live with her trusty pal Mr. Hoodz– encouraged her friend to bring Ashley onto their Live. When Ashley accepted the invite, things got nasty fast. Amber proceeded to yell at Ashley, who made weird faces and laughed in response to how aggressive Amber was.
“Girl, chill the f**k out with your facial expressions! I’m not Farrah!” Amber told Ashley, who proceeded to make some random “record-scratching” sounds, which further fueled Amber’s anger.
“Little girl! You got ghosted for a reason!” Amber bellowed (referring to the brief period in early 2024 that Ashley was not asked back to ‘Next Chapter.’) “Would you like it again baby? This is happening right now. You ain’t got s**t to say but laugh. Why did you guys get cancelled? Tell ’em! Tell ’em why you’re getting cancelled.” (Amber was obviously speaking about the fate of ‘Teen Mom: The Next Chapter,’ which hasn’t been renewed for a third season as of press time.)
Ashley denied that anyone had been cancelled and stated that she would like to talk but it was hard because they had “Methenny over here yelling in the background.”
“You got ghosted by MTV because you don’t have your children!” Ashley told her couched co-star as Amber screamed over her. “…You’re delusional. You’re a s**t mother, you’re a s**t person, that’s why you have nothing but an AirBnB house.”
After the girls screamed over each other some more, Ashley hit Amber with a remark that actually left her speechless— for a moment.
“I have a Bachelor’s degree and I’m taking classes at Harvard. What are you doing, you loser b**ch? Sixteen years and you’ve done nothing but fail— at parenting, at life,” she told Amber.
Amber quickly regained her composure (and restarted her screeching) to once again proclaim how much money she’s made from her time on MTV.
“I’ve made millions of dollars, that’s what the f**k I’ve got— ho!” Amber screamed as she aggressively jerked her head back and forth.
Ashley— who looked genuinely frightened of Amber— and Mr. Hoodz— who looked like he was now questioning any and all of his life choices that brought him to this day— stared as Amber continued her tirade.
“Do you have millions of f**king dollars!? Have you made over $30 million in your life?!” Amber screeched.
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“I’m gonna be a doctor so I’m working on it,” Ashley replied.
“I don’t give a f**k! I made money like a doctor already so sit down!” a very aggressive Amber screamed back. “I started this s**t [‘Teen Mom’] so sit the f**k down, shut your f**king mouth. You ain’t s**t and you know it!”
Amber then asked Ashley why she was so free to talk badly about her online, but not in-person.
“All this smoke— where was it at the Reunion!?” Amber yelled.
Back in October 2023, The Ashley broke the news back in October that the filming of the ‘Teen Mom Family Reunion’ Season 2 was a chaotic mess, and after Ashley— who was not permitted to film her Reunion scenes with the other girls– twerked at the vans containing her co-stars, Amber was (for some reason) furious and called and texted Ashley to let her know. On the call— which Ashley later leaked on social media— Amber can be heard screaming at Ashley, cussing her out, threatening to “mutilate her ass” and telling Ashley to pray that she never sees her again. Amber also told Ashley that she would get fired from the next season.
“I told you to get out of the van, you whack ass b**ch! And you didn’t,” Ashley said, referring to the ‘Twerk Heard All Around the (‘Teen Mom’) World’ incident.
Amber claimed she “grabbed” Ashley, but Ashley denied that ever happened.
“You took a picture like the weak ass you are!” Ashley replied. “Are you a lunatic? You stood right next to me and we took a picture together and someone even put it up and posted it. Are you f**king delusional?”
“You lying little girl!” Amber said. “I grabbed your ass!”
Ashley was having none of that.
“You grab me b**ch, you would have been beat. You thought you’d be somebody with a machete. B**ch, I would have knocked you the f**k out!” Ashley said as Amber screeched incoherently in the background. “I would have knocked your pupils the right dilation, b**ch.”
Amber then claimed that she when grabbed Ashley, it was to help her during a fight Ashley was having with other girls from the show during the Reunion. (Neither Ashley nor Amber were clear about when this incident allegedly took place.)
“I brought her next to me so people would shut their mouths…this is what was up. People were talking mad s**t about me and Ashley, right? So I grabbed her arm and I say, ‘Hey, come here, take a picture next to me.'”
Amber admitted that she had apologized to Ashley at the time for previous comments she made about her.
“Of course I apologized to you!” Amber yelled. “I’m a f**king WOMAN!”
“You apologized like a weak ass b**ch and we moved on!” Ashley replied with a laugh, which angered Amber even more.
“How is that WEAK!? You little girl!” Amber hissed as Ashley laughed. “You’re so little.”
Ashley then called Amber a stream of expletives and shamed her for apologizing.
“Are you so high off of meth that you don’t know what you’re saying?” Ashley asked Amber. “You sound stupid, b**ch. You apologized because you are a sucker! You told me you were going to murder me. You thought you were a gangsta. Yeah, I’m gonna be a hoodrat now. And then you apologized like the weak ass p**sy you were. And then you said, ‘Let’s take a picture and show everyone that we can get along. That’s what happened.”
Amber disputed Ashley’s account of the events.
“That was for your ass to stay on the show!” Amber bellowed back. “Dumbass, and then they ghosted you! …They picked me! I made the money, you got ghosted! You’re talking mad s**t right now and I tried to help your dumb ass.”
Amber then dropped a bombshell.
“I was called by the producers [who said], ‘Can you help her with her drug problem?'” Amber said of Ashley.
Ashley denied she had a drug problem, then explained that she had used drugs in the past.
“I’m gonna mute Amber because, first of all, I’ve been very transparent about the fact that a long time ago I did Xanax,” Ashley said (as Amber continued to scream despite being on mute). “A long time ago, back when I was like 18 or 19. Then I got pregnant with Holly and obviously I couldn’t do Xanax anymore. It was hard for me, but I’ve been very transparent about that. So I don’t know what she’s talking about, this ‘drug problem’, but, babe, I don’t do drugs. And you guys always love to bring that up, but I’ve been so transparent about it.”
Amber had been talking about why she apologized to Ashley back then.
Meanwhile, Amber was stating that the producers called her and asked her to talk to Ashley about her alleged drug use.
“It wasn’t just Xany bars [Xanax],” Amber said. “The producers asked me to get a hold of her to help her. Because she was on drugs, she’s on drugs. She’s on pills. And I straight-up told them, ‘That’s not up to me. If she wants to say something to me, she can come to me. That’s all I f**king said.”
Ashley went back to muting Amber, calling her a “deadbeat,” among other things.
“I have custody of my kid. They only keep you on the show because you’re a perfect example of what being a deadbeat parent looks like,” Ashley said. “You’re the perfect example of what it looks like to not take care of your kid, and how that actually affects the child. And, so, I think that’s why Amber is still on the show because she doesn’t take care of either of her kids.”
(As ‘Teen Mom’ fans know, Amber’s daughter Leah lives with her dad Gary Shirley and is estranged from Amber. Amber’s son, James, lives with her ex Andrew Glennon in California.)
Once she was unmuted, Amber stated that Ashley was making her “talk about the money I’ve made, you weirdo.”
“Just sit in your apartment and be quiet,” Amber told Ashley.
Later, after Ashley left the chat, Amber spoke to Mr. Hoodz about her daughter, Leah, saying that the only people keeping Leah from her was her ex Gary Shirley and his wife Kristina. (Leah has stated on-camera numerous times that it was her decision to cut off contact with Amber, and that no one made that choice for her.)
Still, Amber believes it is Gary and Kristina’s fault that Leah doesn’t talk to her.
“They did that since she was little. It’s like grooming a kid. Like, if I went to court, I’m telling you…I know exactly what I would do. They don’t want to go. My receipts are long. I’ve got over 13 years of receipts.”
Meanwhile, Ashley got back on Live solo and spilled some (alleged) tea about how Human Resources had to do an “investigation” about Amber threatening to “mutilate” her.
“You got benched…you weren’t on a single episode that season. Let’s talk about that…You thought you ate with that one? You were fired. I’m still on the show. We ain’t seen you since we seen you! When’s the last time we seen you, Amber Portwood?”
The Ashley decided to close the lid on the dumpster after that, but will continue to update if the girls start taking more verbal swings at each other…
UPDATE! After the initial sparring on Wednesday, Ashley posted a video to TikTok where she absolutely dragged Amber once again. You can watch that video below.
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(Photos: TikTok; MTV)
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I will say thank you for not having anything better to do, I appreciate the much needed distraction!
I also have nothing better to do and appreciate The recaps here so I do not have to waste more time.
30 million in 16 years, and she cannot afford to live near her son in Santa Barbara and Malibu?
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While ‘Teen Mom’ fans know that Amber does not currently have a relationship with her daughter, she frequently touts her close bond with James– so much in fact, that a fan asked the self-proclaimed “damn good mom” on Friday why she hasn’t moved to California in order to be geographically closer to her son.
“You guys think that I can afford to live in freaking California?!” Amber shouted at her streaming pal, as well as those viewing the Live. “Hold on, we’re having an issue here. I cannot afford to live in California, first of all.
“Second of all, my son lives in Santa Barbara and Malibu,” she continued. “I damn sure cannot afford to live there! What the f**k?!”
Amber– who revealed in March (and confirmed again on Friday) that she has quit Teen Mom: The Next Chapter– went on to claim that, due to the high cost of living in the state of California, she wouldn’t even be able to purchase a home in “the slums of Los Angeles.”
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” That’s all I could think about when Ashley completely OWNED Amber’s ridiculous turban-headed self! While Ashley has been disgusting in many ways over the years, especially to her landlord, she was not wrong in her assessment of Amber’s many epic failures in life.
My only hope is that Ashley feuds with Jenelle again, so that she can KO her without Jenelle hiding behind David this time. We all need an Ashley in our corner to defend us at one time or another!
Soo… who REALLY wins in this scenario? Ashley isn’t doing herself any favors by wasting her time choosing to go head to head with someone who is known for being unhinged and in a constant spiral.
They both look high.
I’m no fan of Ashley at all, but Damn Amberchete is 🥜 than 🐿️💩
I bet Leah regrets her decision to not speak to Amber any longer…………..NOT!
When Ashley becomes a doctor, I need to know where she will be practicing, because I would like to never go to that office, hospital, animal hospital etc.
Good grief I need a shower after reading this trash.
Amber is so embarrassing, I wish she would get qualified help, get off Tiktok and her couch. And she shouldn’t be talking about pills/drugs, you’d think since she supposedly kicked her own addiction that she wouldn’t be throwing that in anyone’s face. But she’s just like Jenelle they lack any accountability, awareness and are stuck at the mentality of adolescence. It’s so crazy to me how they lack empathy for anyone and act like perpetual victims. Both Leah and Jace were failed by the one person you’re supposed to feel the safest and most loved with.
Your link to the TikTok takes me to some video with a woman walking a pregnant horse. Can you repost the link? Thanks and great recap!
I don’t have tic tok because I don’t want to be blackmailed someday by the communist Chinese so thanks for reporting this, this crap is great 👍 now I hope someone puts it on YouTube
What are you posting, that you would be concerned about it?
They access all your information just by downloading that app. They’re communists, duh.. they will get all your information not just what you post!
I dont kno if it jus tik tok. Cant they get ur information from any/all the other apps you have on your phone. Alot of apps have originated from that same place (China). Y is it tik tok is the only one that access ppl ‘s information?What information has been released about tik tok being the only one that can get ur info?
I dont have it, so im genuinely curious?
Google it I never said they were the only one but they specifically target you through that one. They’re communists duh do you people not remember Covid?
Your foil hat needs replacing
Most of them have been posted to the TeenMom reddit subs. That’s where I saw the sections of Ashley’s replies to previous Amber live rants about Ashley yesterday but I didn’t watch the reddit post of the TT lives with all three of them. Thankfully The Ashley has reported everything ’cause I wanted nothing to do with Amber screaming or fake crying from her couch.
The wonderful silence of reading The Ashley’s snark over this whole thing is a blessing. Thanks again The Ashley for taking one for all of us and diving into the mess that is Amber’s TT lives. 🙂
😀 I’d be more worried about unsettled, unethical America gouging your information to keep pouring money into the 1%.
Amber has millions of dollars but cant go be with James? Lol
She spent it all on weird puppets and Matt Baier, I guess.
Yes! I didn’t even think about that. Thanks for bringing it up. Can’t believe Amber is dumb enough to try to drag Ashley. She finally met her match.
My mom always told me growing up, “no matter how big and bad you think you are. There is always someone bigger and badder than you.”
Apparently Amber missed that memo. Also, pretty much everything else in her land of delusions.
They are both losers
🥴🥴 not once did Ashley look afraid of the Ambergler.
Who’s worse? The mentally ill one, or the one who chooses to engage with the known mental defective? Ashley may do well in her studies, but her inherent hutu nature will always get the best of her.
Sooooo…. you’ve got millions of dollars, but you also said that you can’t afford to move to California to be closer to your son. Which is it Ambien??
My thoughts exactly. When convenient, she’s a millionaire, but when it comes time to explain why she can’t be near her child, she can’t afford it.
I’m surprised Ashley didn’t comment on Amber needing help fighting her own battles from a random dude- LOL.
“I’ve got millions of dollars!”
But you ain’t got your kids 😬
But somehow she don’t have the money to move closer to her son…
Amber just rambles absolute BS and for some reason thinks that money makes her someone.
She is nothing. Not a mother. Not a productive member of society.
Hush up.
This makes me so sad, mainly for Leah and James , amber isn’t listening to anyone, just wants to fight with everyone showing how strong and amazing she is, sadly I think this is her way of blocking the person she is and everyone that follows her and likes her posts etc gives her purpose in life, if everyone disappears, she might actually realize what she has done
Andddd THIS is why Leah wants nothing to do with her. I can’t image the screaming banshee being my mother. Ugh ..poor Leah.
With a lot of this, I am team ashley, but my amber has right, is that Adhleu acts very ghetto.. Where was all this?I’m gonna beat your ass, and i’m gonna take you out when bar was hitting her??? She’s all talk no action… Also, I’m wondering who paid for her to take some Harvard classes. Because there’s no way she got in there. On her own to get up for that, unless she was admitted as a way to be inclusive and multicultural… But jesus she is so ghetto.
On the other hand she’s absolutely correct. Amber should not be having a pediatric psychologist, nor has she done anything in sixteen years that she sat her asana couch. Where is your thirty million amber??? Oh, wait, you probably used most of it on drugs. And pain child support, because you won’t take care of your own damn kids. Oh right and lower your feet since you like to chase people around with a machete in front of your child. When it comes to these two, neither one is better than the other.They’re basically the exact same.They’re just a little bit different style. When is ghetto and and when is trailer park trash.
Taking some online classes at Harvard (Extension School) is not the same as actually getting into Harvard. Harvard has thousands of students who are of different races and ethnicities, so they don’t need Ashley to be “inclusive and multicultural.” This is basically the same thing as Amber claiming she attended Purdue. She actually was in Purdue Global, which is available to anyone who enrolls.
so she following Farrah’s “harvard ” path…lol
The only difference is that Farrah never even completed even 1/4 of a course and paid big money to be told she’s got the educational level of a child in third grade, lmao. But yes, similar path, lol.
I have seen people do great things with degrees and certifications they got from similar programs that good universities also have, so there’s a chance she’ll do some good with it in the future (hopefully, assuming she sticks with it).
Ashley’s ghetto but Amber’s not? I’d like to know the reason(s) you think one of them is ghetto and the other is not. What *precisely* sets Ashley apart from Amber and makes her ghetto (yeah, think real hard on that one before you answer…lol).
If it’s the way she talks, Amber does it too. If it’s the way she acts, Amber is even worse. If it’s the way she treats other people, again, defines Amber. They’re more alike than they aren’t in most ways, except where it counts most, and that is where children are involved.
There is really only one reason you’d call one of them ghetto and not the other, and it’s something you shouldn’t be proud to admit about yourself. You might want to do some serious inward reflecting before continuing on with that frame of thought.
Ftr, I think they’re both trash people, just plain trash, full stop, no ghetto anything, no trailer anything, just….trash people.
Yeah, the comment was filled of veiled racism. Accusing Ashley of being “ghetto” and wondering if she got into Harvard only because they’re trying to be “inclusive and multicultural” were immediate tells.
Nah, you’re so wrong on this. You might think Ashley is ghetto, and I’m sure some of her behaviours may seem like it, but the way you’re implying that being ghetto is one of the worst things a person can be? Shut up. Ashley and Amber are not the same. Ashley has custody of her kids, she worked her ass off to become a nurse and it seems like she wants to continue her education, that right there is impressive on it’s own. Add in she’s raising her daughter, for the most part as a single mom, working as a nurse and trying to improve herself to give her daughter a good future? That’s so far from what Amber does.
Also, you’re really disgusting for trying to call her out for not fighting with Bar. Getting into a brawl is very different from being in a domestic violence situation. The betrayal of someone you love doing that to you is enough to make you shut down faster than a shot to the sweet spot on your jaw would.
Congratulations. You’re as much of a garbage human as Amber is
OMG Ashley should totalllllly befriend Andrew Glennon and start hanging out with James!! Amber would lose her sh*t!!! 🤣
If MTV really wanted to keep this franchise going, they’d start putting these girls in a ring (maybe an octagon, I don’t know) and let us see who’s actually willing to back up their words.
UnCelebrity Deathmatch!
HA! Just like when FARRAH was SUPPOSED to do a Celebrity boxing match with “HOOPZ” (don’t remember her real name) from Flava of Love. She was CONSTANTLY posting shots of herself “training” but then DROPPED OUT of the fight!
Who would you guys pair up in a TM smackdown? Amber vs Jenelle? :D:D:D Why am I laughing out loud right now?
“I’ve got all this money” “I’ve got all these receipts”, then put up or shut the eff up. The comment about xani bars too, girl is such a junkie trash bag it’s not even funny. Sorry, not sorry. I don’t believe Amber has any sort of actual mental illness at all, she’s just another lowlife druggy that will never actually amount to anything of value.
I so agree. I’m so sick of this mental illness excuse. Amber is a lazy, undisciplined, irresponsible, slutty, self indulgent who does not take any responsibility for her actions. I was weak laughing at her. But I hope Leah can survive this curse on her life.
I’m with you. I’m bipolar as hell—and yet somehow, I’ve managed to avoid wielding a machete like I’m starring in a low-budget slasher, launching my ex down the stairs like it’s the damn Olympics, booking therapy with a children’s specialist, or building a puppet army that looks one step away from chanting in Latin. I’m content to just hurt myself. I cry in the bathroom like it’s my side hustle, obsess over texts from the Obama era, and give myself bangs that scream “emotional instability but make it fashion.”
And Amber? Oh, Amber’s the undisputed queen of bullshit. Her excuses are like expired coupons—plenty of them, but not a single damn one works. “My daughter won’t talk to me because people turned her against me!” No, sweetie, she won’t talk to you because you throw screaming fits on TikTok that look like deleted scenes from Mean Girls: The Midlife Crisis Edition.
I caught some of this on YT.
I just don’t really get why Ashley (not THE Ashley, ofc), would even waste her time arguing back and forth with Amber.
Amber is not worth it.
Ashley mentioned on one of her replies about Amber’s lives that if Amber is going to earn TT money for running her mouth about her (Ashley) then she was going to reply on TT live and get money too. She basically said that Amber shouldn’t be earning money by bad mouthing other TeenMoms from the show but if she was going to do daily TT lives and “have my name in your mouth again” or something like this, Ashley was going get TT live money telling the “correct” behind the scenes Amber tea.
One of the best clap backs was Ashley reminding Amber that it was Cheyenne not her who was talking to Leah on a previous show after Amber just went into a TT live anger spiral about “Ashley” talking with Leah about Leah’s problems with Amber. Oh, it was a great clap back!!!
Amber talks a lot of shit on tik tok. Ashley would beat the breaks off of Amber and Amber knows it. I would personally pay to watch that.
Woo hoo me too
That ghetto clown hood rat is a smart beautiful woman and a good nurturing mother and I wish amber would opened her door one day and see ashley standing there and ashley would just jerk her out of the house and whip her ass but good evening
I would pay to watch that.
Who knows maybe this will be what finally gets her off her couch and engage with the World again. Ashley mentioning that she abused xanax a little makes sense. I think that was bar’s favorite drug. It frightens me that Ashley may eventually become a R.N.. That temper is not going to be allowed in a hospital.
Every high school bully eventually becomes a nurse. Trust me, a temper won’t preclude Ashley
I side with Ashley here but I must agree! I was bullied horribly by a nurse who was the mom of my small child’s friend and it was so out of pocket I will never forget it