
Jenelle Evans hit TikTok Live over the weekend— lashing out at a variety of people and making several eyebrow-raising claims, many of which involve her Teen Mom 2 co-star-turned-nemesis Kail Lowry, whom Jenelle recently reignited her longtime feud with. During her social media spiral rant, Jenelle claimed that Kail only got the job on her Coffee Convos podcast because she basically turned the gig down!
Jenelle claimed that Kail’s co-host Lindsie Chrisley initially came to her with the idea for Coffee Convos and was allegedly so desperate to work with Jenelle that she wouldn’t leave her alone, causing Jenelle to ignore the offer and Lindsie, in turn, to then go to Kail and ask her to partner with her on the podcast.
In an exclusive statement to The Ashley, however, Lindsie flat-out denied Jenelle’s claim, and went on to accuse Jenelle of trying to use Kail’s podcasting success as a way to drum up content for her own upcoming new podcast.
Lindsie— who told The Ashley that she has never met Jenelle and has only spoken to her once when they were both in Los Angeles at the same time years ago— advised Jenelle to ask Kail for some tips if she wants her own podcast to be a success.
“I find it to be completely outlandish that [Jenelle’s] trying to attach herself to Kail’s name to make headlines in the podcast space,” Lindsie stated. “If she’s that hard up for wanting to do a show, I’m sure Kail would discuss with her the vertical KILLR Network, [which is] a vertical of Podcast One.”

For those who actually have a life missed Jenelle’s TikTok Live rant over the weekend, the former Lady ‘o’ The Land began talking about Lindsie and Coffee Convos when a fan asked her if she had ever met the former Chrisley Knows Best star.
“Do I know Lindsie Chrisley? She seems to be Kail’s bestie. Fun fact– fun fact about Lindsie,” Jenelle said. “Lindsie asked to start a podcast with me to begin with. Not Kail. She wanted to start this podcast before Kail was ever a thought. She just kept texting me way too much and blowing up my phone like every five seconds and if I didn’t answer she’d get mad.
“To me it was kind of weird and creepy so I decided to ghost her!” Jenelle continued with a chuckle. “So, I ghosted Lindsie Chrisley and then she went to Kail and said, ‘Hey do you want to do a podcast together?’ and Kail said, ‘Yeah.’ And of course, Kail’s gonna use her. Of course she’s gonna use her.”
@sfvclipper @Jenelle Evans @Kail Lowry #viral #jenelleevans #kaillowry #teenmom #fyp ♬ original sound – SFV Clipper
Last week, Kail and Jenelle swapped insults on social media, creating the latest battle in their decade-long war. As The Ashley previously reported, Jenelle was madder than a swamp hornet after she saw a clip of Kail making a comment about her (and Briana DeJesus) while on-stage at her friend Matt Mathews’ recent comedy show. Kail was speaking to a member of the audience and asked the woman who her favorite ‘Teen Mom’ star was. When the woman replied that her favorite is Kail, the mom of seven replied, “Me? Thank God it’s not Briana, obviously! Or Jenelle! Oh, f**k.”
@brittanyha2010 Matt said that’s a no for me 😂 #foryou #fyp #boujeeonabudget #birminghamalabama #vip ♬ original sound – BrittanyHa2010
That didn’t go over well with Jenelle, who immediately hopped on social media and slammed Kail for continuing to mention her name. Jenelle—who has tried to start a podcast multiple times (and failed)— then promised to overthrow Kail in the podcasting area with her upcoming podcast.
“Move over Kail my podcast and network is next,” Jenelle wrote on social media.

Kail– who currently has three podcasts of her own, and runs the KILLR Podcast Network, which hosts Kail’s three podcasts as well as several other additional podcasts— hopped into the comment section of Jenelle’s post to respond.
“I just peed from laughing so hard,” Kail wrote.
Jenelle responded with a video, which Kail then replied to via a TikTok video of her own, claiming that she had been a good friend to Jenelle back in the day. (Jenelle later denied this in a follow-up video.)
@kaillowryshe’s baaaaaackkkkkk♬ original sound – Kail Lowry
“Obviously by now I’ve already seen Jenelle throwing shots,” Kail began her video. “I honestly don’t give a f**k. I would love to see someone make a TikTok with a whiteboard and a ‘beef’ timeline because you’re not about to come on these f**king apps and try to clown me, Jenelle.”
Jenelle went on to post her own whiteboard of “accomplishments,” including that she is scuba-certified (naturally) and that she took (but assumingly didn’t finish, as she didn’t indicate completion) a “Captain’s Course” to learn how to drive her “yacht.”

(The “yacht” was purchased by Jenelle and her then-husband David Eason but the 1988 vessel broke down almost immediately after purchase. David was “awarded” the clunker in the divorce and is living on the broken-down boat.

Kail has achieved a “whiteboard” full of accomplishments in the podcasting world since Coffee Convos premiered in 2017. Last year, it won a Webby Award in the “Lifestyle” podcast category. Coffee Convos had been nominated for several Webbies and in 2019 received a nomination for the Adam Curry People’s Choice Award. Baby Mamas No Drama— Kail’s now-defunct podcast with Vee Torres— won a Webby in 2023 and was nominated several times.
Currently, Kail has six podcasts under her KILLR Network.
Kail has yet to respond to Jenelle’s latest statements.
RELATED STORY: Kail Lowry & Jenelle Evans Reignite Their Longstanding Feud: Full Recap of the Former ‘Teen Mom 2′ Co-Stars’ Online Fight (Updated!)


25 Responses
Omg. Let’s look at this this way…clean cut Lindsie Chrisley, who appears as if she probably asks you to leave your shoes outside and gives you slippers to be a guest at her home, is going to invite that raggedy ass swamp rat to be on her podcast?
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ok Jenelle
Oh my golly goodness: she truly is delusional! And so very comfortable just flat out lying like this! Those poor kids 🥺
“Cannabis products” lmfao. That ain’t happening and you know it. Just put it in the list of Janelle’s many failed pipe dreams and “accomplishments”..yacht, im dyingggg
she has failed at everything she attempted, including being a mother. She is too developmentally delayed to realize that. She is emotionally and mentally stunted at age 16. Her children are more mentally advanced.
Hey dont insult the developmentally disabled! They are WAY above Ms. Jan here
What is funniest to me is that, even is that WAS true, it is not a brag. That podcast is successful and lucrative – Jenelle bragging that she was offered it and turned it down does not help her. If anything, it makes her look even MORE incompetent.
I believe that Jenelle has finally lost her last marbles
She’s such a liar. Nobody is even thinking about her raggedy ass‼️
If that was true, surely she has screenshots of all the calls and texts? It’s easy to prove, unless you’re a pathological liar 🤥🙃
When the MTV money dries up…..some people are going to be really, really screwed.
Said that years ago,when this ends,it isnt going to be pretty.
Even on the slight chance that she was asked before Kail, she still looks dumb because she turned down what has turned into a long running successful podcast, while she’s had how many woefully unsuccessful attempts at a podcast?
Seriously! Bragging about turning down a successful financial opportunity when she has zero marketable skills and 3 children to support? 😂 obviously it’s not even true (like everything she says) but lying and making yourself even worse is next level dumb.
I commented basically the same thing – Jenelle bragging that she was offered, but turned down, a spot on the coffee combos podcast is not a brag. Especially because she is claiming she turned it down, while also making fun of the successful host who supposedly offered it to her.
Sure, Jan.
Even if this is true, that podcast launched in 2017 and is very successful. Jenelle, on the other hand, is not and is not a part of any podcast at all, let alone one equal or superior in terms of ratings and popularity.
This might be something one says, although ill advised, if that person went on to be equally or more successful in the same area. I’m thinking something along the lines of a famous actress stating that, earlier in her career, she was offered the role of Rose in Titanic but turned it down. That might hit differently than a failed actress making D-list pornos bragging that she was offered the role.
Which is how Jenelle’s “brag” hits for me, IF it is true. Ridiculous.
Girl…I know they say “all publicity is good publicity” but your agency needs to have a sit down come to Jesus moment with you telling you that continuing to embarass yourself through easily debunked rumors is not helping you get brand deals or invites to events or become the “influencer” you delusionally want to be.
Seriously girl…take a step back & get some self-awareness. I know…it’s going to be difficult for you to confront your myriad of lies you tell yourself & change but if you ever want to be famous for more than getting pregnant at 16 & being a general trainwreck it’s something you have to do. Or not. Whichever.
I wish I had an ounce of Jenelle ‘s personal delusion. She truly lacks any level of honest introspection. It’s insane.
Jenelle can’t manage to get out of bed most days. How in the holy hell does she think she’s going to be able to put in the grueling hours it takes to set up a podcast, find suitable guests, convince them to appear, evelop topics, then film and edit everything? She’s a joke. I’m not crazy about Kail and her choices in life regarding fathers for her kids, but she went to college and got a 4-year degree in mass communications. And then she used what she learned to put in the time and effort to create a successful podcast business for herself and the future of her kids. I have to hand it to her for that.
Jenelle couldnt just say that Lindsay asked her to do a podcast noooôo
she has to trash Lindsay by saying she was blowing up Jenelle’s phone,begging her.No one is begging Jenelle,maybe just her children for attention.
No money for her children’s mental health issues caused by her, wastes money on her seventh attempt to have a podcast.
Jenelle trying to flex and then getting absolutely humiliated when her lies are exposed will never not be hilarious. This is right up there with the “Netflix and Amazon want to do a show with me”
is THAT kail’s 🥬 ‘snatched jawline’? 😂😹🤣
WOW. what a 💯 complete and utter waste of time and money.
*insert kim kardashian “it’s what she deserves” GIF here*
also ~ swamp queen 🧟♀️👑 obviously sucks and is obviously lying.
Don’t y’all love it when Jenelle’s lies are not only exposed, but obliterated? 🤔
Every time 😂
just like kail’s actual successful podcasting network, it seems like jenelle’s trying to piggyback off the kail hate train that’s been going on more lately and use it as an opportunity to come up with bs thinking people will believe her over kail 😂😂 jenelle if you’re reading this, which we know you are because you LOVE to hate read the ashley, we’d pick kail over you ANY DAY even the kail haters 😂😂
Like Jenelle would ever turn down someone who wanted to do a pod-cast with her back in the day, or now!! She is so desperate for fame and attention because we all know she’s a complete failure as a person, as a mother, as a mentally sane person, or as a girl in her 30’s who could ever show her face claiming to be an upstanding, law abiding person!! LOL! LOL! I mean, c’mon Jenelle, not to many decent moms have 15 mug shots and do porn on line for a living!! You really are a joke. We have all seen the way you lie so much that you forget what you said, and make yourself look more stupid every day! You will never be a success at anything, other than being a trailer trash, sickening excuse for a mother.