Debra Danielsen Says She Believes Daughter Farrah Abraham Has Borderline Personality Disorder & Narcissism

“What? Like we haven’t all been thinking this since like 2010?”

Farrah Abraham‘s behavior on Teen Mom OG (and various other reality shows) has caused viewers to often wonder ‘What the hell is wrong with that girl?’ Now, her mom Debra Danielsen is revealing what she thinks is the answer to that question!

In a new interview with Facebook talk show “Shot Talk,” Debz OG discussed a number of topics, including Farrah getting the boot from ‘Teen Mom,’ as well her feelings on how the hole left by Farrah’s firing should be filled (pun definitely intended). However, her thoughts on Farrah’s mental state were probably the most interesting.

Here’s what Debra had to say on a variety of ‘Teen Mom’-related topics:

On Farrah’s mental health status:

When asked straight-out if she believed her daughter suffered from borderline personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder, Debra did not hold back.

“Yes I do,” Debra said, adding that she believes Farrah thinks has those disorders as well.

“A lot of families in the United States today are plagued by mental health issues, and you will see some of that on ‘Teen Mom OG’ going forward,” Debra said. “Mental health is a really big deal and there shouldn’t be any shame around that. You just need to go get treatment…

“If you have borderline personality disorder, if you have narcissism, if you have any of these kinds of things, they’re all highly treatable,” she added. “All is not lost. I will say that, deep down inside, I know my daughter is kind, is loving, she is sweet and very compassionate. I think she works extremely hard. I think she needs to step back a moment and take some time and get healthy and take time for herself so she can heal.”

On her husband Dr. David Merz’s thoughts on Farrah:

“He loves Farrah…he also believes that Farrah needs to, you know, be more serious about [getting] counseling and really take the time out and maybe get away from the cameras for a little bit and just go focus on her and her health, just so she can be 1,000 percent,” Debra said.

On Farrah getting fired from the show for being in the adult industry & treating production poorly:

Debz stated that she found out from the tabloids that her daughter got the boot!

“We were on the eve of my wedding, and we were all set to go and film, and everyone was coming… and then what happened was there was this huge blowout,” Debra said. “Farrah and the firing and all that. I seriously thought I lost my mind there for a little bit. They did not film [my] wedding.”

[Luckily for you, The Ashley did film at Deb’s wedding! Click here to see a fun snippet!]

Deb also gave her thoughts on people freaking out about how Farrah treated her producers.

“People have brought this to my attention…I guess it’s OK when she yells at me? Because everyone likes the drama of that, but when she turns and talks to someone else that way, it’s like the whole world just melted?” Debz said.

On Mackenzie McKee replacing Farrah on ‘Teen Mom OG’:

(The Ashley would like to interject here and state that, despite what other media outlets are reporting, The Ashley has NOT confirmed that Mackenzie is getting Farrah’s spot on the show. It is a possibility but The Ashley has not heard from her sources that this is 100% happening. The only thing The Ashley knows for sure is that MTV is filming a special about Mackenzie. THAT IS ALL.)

Debz is not a fan of bringing Mackenzie, who started on ‘Teen Mom 3,’ onto ‘Teen Mom OG.’

“I don’t know that her story exactly goes with the ‘OG’ group, because this is the ‘OG’ girls,” Debra said. “We’re the original girls, we started the whole franchise. These girls came from a really hard place. Looking at Mackenzie, I understand her mom is dying right now [of] Stage 4 brain cancer, and that is tragic. But when I look at the demographic of our viewing audience…it’s just a little bit weird that she’s a female body builder, and she’s got a husband and she’s got other children. She looks like a very happy, functioning person.”

On which ‘Teen Mom’ star should get the boot if MTV were to combine the casts of ‘Teen Mom 2’ and ‘Teen Mom OG’:

“[I would cut out] Jenelle,” Debra said. “I don’t say that in a mean way, but if Jenelle is married to somebody that got fired, she’s in a very precarious place. And then she just came out and said ‘I’m not going to let my children film anymore.’ Then what’s the story?”

To watch Debz OG’s full interview (and you really should because she talks about how, at 18, she was engaged to a man in his fifties!), click the video below!

(Photo: Facebook)

68 Responses


  1. God Debra you are pathetic. The show isn’t about you, it’s not called, “the parents of teen moms”or “51 and desperate for attention”. i could care less about you, isn’t it time for you to sashay away?


  2. I am so glad Farrah is gone from the show. This should have happened a long time ago! MTV lost a lot viewers that watched the show because they failed to do something about her before.


  3. At some point, the balance of power in the family shifted and became triangular with Farrah at the head and her parents at the bottom. I believe it was when she started making serious money and they all became financially dependent upon her. I don’t think Michael has had his, “own” job for years; he has worked for Farrah at FroYo and her furniture store. That’s just not good. We’ve seen her mum hit her up for as much as $8k for a liquid face lift. It’s obvious the mum has had a full face lift-I’m sure she didn’t pay for that. It makes me sick that her dad defends her career in porno-he seems desperate to maintain a relationship with her, no matter the cost. It’s a massively f-ked up relationship. The interview with Deb pretty much says it all. She died when they didn’t film her wedding. Her husband is disgusting-someone who calls himself a therapist would never scream and loose it with Farrah with like he did. Never. Then he was drunk at Farrah’s b-day and he went after Michael – holy inappropriateness. Wtf was that about? Another attention whore. I hope they all fade away and Sophia is ok -SHE is truly the victim in all of this


  4. Deb is pissed and is probably already writing a book. She’s got to find a way to keep the money train going, even if it means throwing her monster daughter under the bus. Deb raised the vile monster. I don’t feel sorry for Deb at all for the way Farrah talked to her. However, even though Farrah is a grown ass woman, Deb should have beat the crap out of Farrah for talking to and treating people the way she does, especially the MTV crew. If it were not fir MTV, Farrah would probably still be living at home with Deb. Deb has probably allowed Farrah treat people the way she does since the day she was born. Farrah didn’t even have friends in school in the 16 & Pregant episode. And the ones she has had throughout the show have probably been rent-a-friends. Deb raised the vile creature and now Farrah is raising Sophia the same way. So no, Deb if you are reading this, I don’t feel sorry for you at all.


  5. Deb is pissed and is probably already writing a book. She’s got to find a way to keep the money train going, even if it means throwing her monster daughter under the bus. Deb raised the vile monster. I don’t feel sorry for Deb at all for the way Farrah talked to her. However, even though Farrah is a grown ass woman, Deb should have beat the crap out of Farrah for talking to and treating people the way she does, especially the MTV crew. If it were not fir MTV, Farrah would probably still be living at home with Deb. Deb has probably allowed Farrah treat people the way she does since the day she was born. Farrah didn’t even have friends in school in the 16 & Pregant episode. And the ones she has had throughout the show have probably been rent-a-friends. Deb raised the vile creature and now Farrah is raising Sophia the same way. So no, Deb if you are reading this, I don’t feel sorry for you at all.


  6. Debra’s comment that people do not have a problem with Farrah yelling at her but get mad that Farrah talks to others in the same way is ridiculous. First of all I do not think anyone thinks it is o k that she talks to her mom the way she does, but Debra YOU ALLOW IT. And Debra you raised her. I would be extremely mortified if my daughter spoke to anyone the way Farrah does much less to the people who gave her the opportunity to make big money for being a teen mom.


  7. Both Farrah and her mom lack any insight or self-reflection of their personal responsibilities. They both displace blame on everyone else for all of their problems and this will never change. Just own your shit. Drop your ego and own your shit… we’re all fallible; we all make mistakes. When you take ownership for your mistakes you will love yourself so much more. And for Deb to complain that no one cared when Farrah yelled/belittled her, (again with the victimization)- Deb, we know Farrah is an awful, heartless, disrespectful daughter, but we saw just a snippet of how “anti-Christ” you treated her during her youth. Kristen, however, bent over backwards to cater, display patience and assist Farrah and got completely shit on. You both need intensive therapy.


  8. Honestly if you think about it Farrah is already getting karma for how terrible she is. She cannot find a guy who loves her and is willing to make a commitment to her. She also got fired from her main source of narcissistic supply, her being on TV. Without attention she will wither up and die because her life is meaningless without constant attention of some kind. She dates a guy and within 5 minutes she’s demanding that they buy her a ring and commit to her. Now that she is no longer on TV her mom has no reason to kiss her ass and enable her disgusting behavior towards everyone. Since Deb’s cash cow has dried up she has no reason to be nice to Farrah, so instead she’ll sell her out to tabloids any chance she can get.


  9. Pot, meet kettle.
    Debra disgusts me just as much as Farrah.
    Can we remember how she told Sophia that dogs don’t have souls? That she enables Farrah and only tries to baby talk her just to get more money for plastic surgeries? When she previously tried to basically beat the “anti-christ” attitude out of her daughter? That she encouraged Farrah not to speak to Daddy Derrick before he died and lie to him about being pregnant? That she’s fame hungry and shops at stores for pre-teens?
    I think Debra (& Micheal and the rest of her family) are the reason Farrah is so fucked up. Fame exacerbated it of course, but Farrah’s soul-deep issues lie with her family and whatever happened to her to turn her into the sad empty shell she is today.


  10. So let me get this straight. Now that the money for prosta- tot gear and fillers is gone now shes going to say all these things? But it was fine for her to act like that while the money was rolling in. Wow…. she is no better than her piece of shit daughter.


    1. My point exactly, she’s the reason Farrah is a terrible excuse of a human being.. we see first hand how the vicious cycle is rolling, pretty evident that Sophia is going to be even worse than her mother! Sad


  11. This is exactly why her daughter hates her! No attention from mtv anymore so she’s going to throw her kid under the bus every chance she gets for her own selfishness. She’s a horrible mother!! Any normal mother would have told her daughter a long time ago.. “ stop the surgeries, you look like mrs potato head!!!”


  12. Deb seems very lucid right now and is making lots of sense. Who thought we would live to see the day were Deb is making all the sense.

    Farrah does treat everyone in her life awful but her parents did raise her. And I do agree Mackenzie does not need to be on the show. He mother is very sick and that needs to be her priority. But then again I don’t want Mack Edwards either. She is awful and still like a teenager in how immature she is.


  13. Could someone please give me a brief explanation of Borderline Personality Disorder? Is it similar to bipolar disorder? I’ve heard the term—I’m just unfamiliar with the specifics. Thanks.


    1. Bipolar is swings in mood, energy and ability to function in life. It has alternating periods of Mania and Depressive times that can last for days and months.

      Borderline Personality Disorder that have swings in moods, relationships, behavior etc. for they have over the top responses to life events and have issues with relationships with people


  14. I don’t know that her story exactly goes with the ‘OG’ group, because this is the ‘OG’ girls,” Debra said. “We’re the original girls, we started the whole franchise.
    Hmmmm, ok Deb! You’re totally one of the “girls”. Where did Farrah learn her Narcissism?
    Also I think that they are going to use mental illness to get Farrah back on Teen Mom OG. Suspect she just now mentions it, don’t ya think?


  15. Debz pissed that because Farrah got fired, they wouldn’t film her wedding LOL. I guess that was the straw that broke the camels back, because before she would constantly kiss Farrah’s ass….now all of that is out the window, and she’s actually calling a spade a spade. I will say I also agree with her about Jenelle. Jenelles getting out of control and is becoming more and more obnoxious…if they combined the OG and 2, and got rid of Jenelle I don’t think she would be missed


  16. Deb’s head must have exploded when she learned her wedding would not be filmed. So sorry I missed that.


  17. Farrah is a Bitch, that’s her MAIN problem. She is so self centered, and treats people so disrespectful. She will meet KARMA one day, and I hope she slaps that Narcassistic Ass HARD. Her daughter is who to feel sorry for…..


      1. It’s definitely too late. You can tell by the vacant stare.

        The horror movie based on her life will be called Children of the Scorn.


  18. “Debra Danielsen Says She Believes Daughter Farrah Abraham Has Borderline Personality Disorder & Narcissism”

    And in other news, water is wet.


    1. I was just going to say. I have BPD and am nothing like this evil piece of sh*t. Maybe because I actually go to therapy and take it seriously, and my family would never put up with me if I acted the way she did.


  19. “I understand her mom is dying right now, and that is tragic. But-” NO NO BUTS! That just…could she sound any less callous and unsympathetic? Up until that point, I agreed. Minus the fact that she seems to deflect from the fact that she /also/ needs therapy.

    I bet now that filming’s over she might revert back to the adult woman capable of getting an MBA instead of galavanting around in clothes that weren’t for her granddaughter, or on a bad day, a raving Avril Lavigne impersonator who also has a side career as a aging stripper. Fingers crossed.


  20. Her claiming Farrah has borderline and is a narcissist is the smartest and most grounded thing I’ve ever heard her say. That said, hahahaha the fact she is clearly ALSO a narcissist it totally lost on her. And no, Dr/”Dr” David does not love Farrah. This woman is too much.


    1. yes!! She referred to herself as a mom and while BPD is treatable, narcissism is not. Farrah probably got that trait from her mother.


  21. So a few years back when Farrah was still on Teen Mom and footing the bill for all of Debz’s face lifts — she was perfectly sane?

    Woman, please. Just have a seat and STFU.

    (Cue eye roll right about here.)


  22. “We’re the original girls, we started the whole franchise. 

    Um…wtf? WE didn’t start anything. THEY’RE the original girls.

    Seriously, what the fuck, Deb. All I saw when I read that line was Amy Poehler’s character in Mean Girls, dancing along with the girls onstage at the Christmas show holding the camera.


    1. So kill Mackenzie for being a functioning adult? That others can somewhat relate to? ( keyword somewhat, she’s normal compared to Farrah ) I do think she would stick out from the other 3 because she’s a lot younger and we haven’t followed her they all her pregnancies, life drama, etc.


  23. Debz must be Lizzie’s at Farrah got fired, especially since they didn’t film her wedding. Now she is telling all on Farrah. And I really do think Farrah has been sexually abused. Borderline is usually caused by childhood trauma. And from what I understand, many women who go into the porn industry have also been sexually abused. That said, I somehow cannot find empathy for Farrah. If she is aware of these disorders, she can afford the very best therapy and treatment. These issues give her no reason to treat people the wa6 she does. None.


  24. I reaaaaaalllllly hope they don’t give McKee that spot .. I really don’t want either Mackenzie to get it. They either should just do 3 girls or move one from TM2…


    1. I agree Sarah about it hpjust being the 3 girls. All they would have to do is extend each one’s film time and extra 5 minutes. I believe Debz is wanting that spot. She is as delusion as her daughter.


  25. Debz next appearance will be on Dr Miami’s table. Seriously, this from a woman who thinks she is a rap superstar. Start acting like her mother and not a famewhore!


    1. Oh I didn’t see your comment before I posted mine – sorry!

      But seriously, this woman would do ANYTHING to stay in the spotlight.


  26. I love the fact that she HAD to mention her wedding wasn’t filmed. I bet her fame whore husband was disappointed too.

    Otherwise no shit, Sherlock.


  27. So, Deb thinks it’s terrible that Farrah talks to her that way on camera? Well, damn woman!!! Tell that little bitch you didn’t raise how it is! I can’t for the life of me understand how a mother would stand for that. If that was my mom, Farrah wouldn’t have to worry about getting ready for sex cam videos. She wouldn’t have a hair on her head or a veneer in her mouth. She’d be crawling around, picking up those horse teeth like popcorn.


    1. I’m sure she has wanted to, but Farrah has been Debz’s main source of income. IIRC, Farrah had Debz arrested once before when they got into a fight and knows Farrah would not hesitate to have her arrested again. I bet she wouldn’t hesitate now because Farrah has ended her gravy train so there is no need to take Farrah’s abuse anymore. Debz is as narcissistic as Farrah and has loved the limelight as much as the money. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.


      1. This. A lot of Farrah’s original story line was based on Derrick’s death/paternity and her pressing charges on Deb and going to mediation/counseling with Deb. Farrah seems to have always run things when it comes to her mother. And after Farrah became the breadwinner I’m sure their relationship was even more codependent and unbalanced.


  28. Deb is nuts, plain and simple. And we know where Farah got her mental health issues from. Her new husband doesn’t have anyone jumping through happy hoops either. She doesn’t have a great man picker any more than Farah does.


  29. “WE” were the original girls, “we” started it. Guess what you crazy lunatic, she are NOT a star of that show! You are the mother of a Teen Mom, that’s it, despite your impression that you are a celebrity! Go gently into retirement with that weird you married. Bye Felicia!


  30. I do think there is something wrong with Farrah but until she’s willing to acknowledge it and deal with it it will continue to be an issue… When Farrah reads this or hears of it she is going to lose her mind!


  31. Gosh I wonder where Farrah gets her delusions from? “We’re the original girls, we started the whole franchise.” Uh Debz, you know you’re not one of the teen mom girls, right?

    Also, I do not like Mackenzie McKee, but Deb’s comments about her were rude and just nonsensical. She has a husband and other children so she can’t be on the show? Guess that means you’re off the air too Deb!


    1. But I love that she seemed to imply that the show’s “demographic” isn’t based in normality or healthy relationships. Whether she realised she was saying that, I’m not so sure!


    2. Basically, she is saying that Mackenzie is too normal and put together to be on Teen Mom. She is married to the father of ALL her children with a career and a business. The scandal! Or should I say lack of! Where are the ratings in that?

      I do agree that Mackenzie doesn’t need to be added to the TMOG cast. Let MTV document her mother’s abrupt cancer diagnosis because Lord knows they could use the money for medical bills, and leave it at that.

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