Jenelle Evans just did two interviews in which she discussed how great her son, Jace, is adjusting after going to live with his dad, Andrew Lewis. The fired Teen Mom star described the transition as “smooth,” but…according to The Ashley‘s sources, things have been anything but smooth for the father and son since Jenelle sent Jace to Florida on May 9.
Jenelle told Access Hollywood that Andrew and Jace have “reconnected” and that Andrew is teaching his son “guy stuff” and catching up. According to someone close to Andrew’s family, though, Jace isn’t even with Andrew anymore— and hasn’t been for a few weeks!
“The situation at Andrew’s home was not good,” the Florida source— who spoke to The Ashley on the condition of anonymity— stated. “Andrew is in no way in the position to be raising a kid, especially one who barely knows him and didn’t want to be there in the first place.”
“Jace lasted less than two weeks with Andrew. He’s not there anymore. Andrew is not mature enough to raise a child by any means,” the source said, confirming that Jenelle “took Andrew and his family’s word that he had changed” but did not actually go to the home herself before sending Jace there.
“Jace didn’t choose to go live with Andrew. It was decided for him,” the source added. “And he hated it here. And he was very upset with Jenelle for sending him. No one is surprised this didn’t work out.”
During her interview with the Fargo Talks YouTube show released on Thursday, Jenelle talked at length about Jace being in Florida and enjoying time with his dad. (It is unknown when Jenelle recorded this interview, though, so there’s a chance it was recorded before Jace left Florida around the third week of May.)
“He just, he needed his dad,” Jenelle said during the episode of Jace. “And his dad hasn’t been involved in his life since he’s been a baby.”
“It was time,” Jenelle continued. “Everyone’s like, ‘Why’d you send him to a stranger?’ But that’s his dad. That’s his other side of his family. And they’ve actually been keeping in contact and visiting each other for the past two years. So, they’ve been reconnecting and they’ve been texting each other. And I’ve been monitoring everything.
“[Andrew] was an alcoholic, but his family says [Andrew] is sober now. And that was years ago when I was, like, 16,” she added.
Jenelle raved about how well Jace and Andrew were getting along.
“They’re doing great. Ever since I sent him there, they’ve sent me pictures of them fishing,” she said. “He’s in Florida so they went out on the beach. They eat at the pier. They do so many good things, and they’re not posting about it, which is great. Because I told [Andrew], I said, ‘He needs privacy right now.'”
According to the Florida source, Andrew has his own issues that make him a less-than-ideal choice to parent a teenager.
“Andrew has not changed. I don’t understand why she would say that. Anyone around here knows that’s not true,” The Ashley’s source stated.
On the podcast, Jenelle stated that she sent Jace away to protect her younger kids, Kaiser and Ensley, from Jace’s mental health issues, and that she had considered sending Jace to a boys’ home facility but she couldn’t afford it, given that the public facilities have a very long waiting list.
“You go look at private stuff and it’s like, $30,000 a month, $1000 a day or more. That’s the cheapest one I found,” she said. “So a lot of people are like, ‘Why didn’t you send him there before his dad’s?’ I don’t have the money, and the state, they have a long waiting list on places. He’s been in therapy since he’s been a child. He’s seen psychiatrists. Like, I mean we’ve tried everything. So our hands were completely tied.”
Jenelle stated on the episode that her mom Barbara— who raised Jace until 2023, when she signed custody back over to Jenelle because she was unable to handle Jace’s behavior– offered to take Jace into her home again, but Jenelle said she wanted him to go to Andrew’s instead.
“I was like, he left there from a bad situation. It’s just going to happen again,” she said. “So, I’m like, ‘Let’s just send him to his dad’s.’ And, yeah, they’re doing great so far. We’ll see.”
It appears that the situation with Jace has put stress on Barbara as well. On the night of May 20 (around the day that Jace left Andrew’s), The Ashley can confirm that Barbara was pulled over for speeding— very close to Jenelle’s North Carolina home on The Land. (Barbara lives more than 30 miles south of The Land, by the way.) According to the police report for the traffic ticket, Barbara explained that she was in the middle of a “family crisis,” which was why she was speeding. She told the cops that she was looking for a bike key (that we can assume had been at Jenelle’s house on The Land.)
In her interview with Access Hollywood— which was filmed after Jace left Andrew’s— Jenelle made no mention of the “family crisis” and, in fact, made it sound like things were going swimmingly for her and her kids at the moment.
“I’m focusing on my kids, I’m focusing on my life,” she said. “Things are so calm and peaceful right now and I want to keep it that way.”
The Ashley will update this story. Stay tuned…
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Poor kid, I just hope he’s safe. What a failure of a mom she is, but she’ll never admit it. A cosummnate liar and narcissist, never takes accountability.
If the options are Barb, Jenelle and Andrew/his family, then yes, Barb would be the best option of those. However, overall, Barb would not be a good option over a foster/adoptive family situation. I don’t say this just as someone who both has foster and adopted kid, I say this as someone who has a vast amount of experience with teens who have similar issues as Jace. If there had not been as many issues as there was when he was with Barb, and if there was a guarantee that Jenelle would never again be in his life, in any capacity, that might be a good option with some serious work and a strong support network for both of them. But, unfortunately, there were many issues and although the majority of the issues he had when he was with Barb were due to Jenelle still being in his life and the damage she just can’t seem to not cause, you can’t erase what’s already happened (even unrelated to Jenelle-induced chaos). Even if you address many of the underlying issues, the past still exists and the damage it has caused can’t be erased. Plus, the support network in places like NC is next to non-existent, which pisses me off to no end. It’s really one of the worst states. Most are only barely within reach of touching acceptable, ftr, they all suck, really, some are just worse.
He would do very well in a home that has experience with the types of issues he has, even if they have children who also have the same issues. Often times, that’s a bad idea, because the conflicts created can be extremely problematic and can cause a lot of regressive (or worse) behavior. But in some cases, the familiarity of “you’re like me!” helps, and in a case like Jace where so many people have foisted so much crap on his sweet shoulders that they expect very little good from him (and seem to have no qualms telling him so, poor thing), it is more likely to help. I’m not saying it’s easy, not by a long shot, it’s hard to help a child, especially an older teen not only recognize the problem(s) but also their role in it and how to best combat it/them…while also leaving room for setbacks, because they will definitely happen.
Some of the kids we have had in our family have come from similar “last chance” scenarios, where all other options have already been exhausted. It’s rough, and it doesn’t always work out, but it’s worth trying no matter what. We’ve had a lot of success, and even in the cases where it just wasn’t the best fit, it WAS the best fit for a season or two and that was enough to help create a foundation they could use We don’t look at these as failed chances, failures at all or anything negative of any sort. We just consider them part of their journey where they can maybe take a bit of a break, gather their thoughts, feel nourished and loved and ready to take whatever next step is necessary for them. We’re a potty/stretch your legs break on a really long journey sometimes, and some kids need exactly that. This happens a lot with older teens especially because there is a lot of damage already present and not a lot of time to help them deal with it before the system ages them out. This is also why we have adult “children” who still live here, they aged out of the system, they didn’t age out of our family 🙂
THAT is what Jace needs, a good, solid, strong safe place where he can settle his mind, deal with some of his problems and not feel as if he’s stuck in a chaotic hurricane all the time. Some kids find that sort of thing in residential facilities, some in foster/adoptive homes, some even out on their own with a good support network. I just really hope someone is in Nevada looking out for this sweet boy (and he is), that they can help him find his safe place, and offer him the foundation he needs to thrive and start planning his own future. All children need that, despite the fact that most people see “safe space” and think of the negative connotations, it’s actually something all humans need. Even if it’s something they give themselves, all people need it. Jace has had something like it in the past, and had Jenelle never been allowed in his life, he might still have that today…sadly, that wasn’t meant to be. BUT, he can still find it with the right people in his corner. I know people are trying to help find that for him, it’s an uphill battle. I just wish they’d work harder and much faster. The system isn’t set up for that though, and it’s sad when you know better can be had, but not enough people are trying their best to get “better” done. It makes me sad, quite often, really. But then I think about the kids we have here, the ones we’ve had here in the past, and I’m eternally grateful that we’ve had the opportunity to be here for them right when they needed it, for a season or a lifetime.
Genuine question, and please forgive me of my ignorance. But, with Barb having custody over Jace when he was an infant, would she have been legally allowed to give him up for adoption? Or does that still fall on the Jenelle and Andrew with the decision?
Jenelle would have had to sign away all parental rights, which she never did. Had she done that, then yes, Barb would’ve been legally allowed to do so, if she wanted to. Jenelle only signed over custody.
Though the chance that Barb ever would have placed him for adoption is slim to none and slim walked out the door for milk 16 years ago. Remove Jenelle from the equation entirely from day one, then Jace and Barb’s life together would’ve gone so much better. I can understand why Barb didn’t really want to do that, but it should’ve been done. (and I’ve said that since the beginning, I’ve seen it countless times). Jenelle is the catalyst for the chaos in all of their lives (including Ensley, Kaiser and even her own life).
Growing up with a violent family member, that’s a minor not an adult, is a different kind of hell. My brother abused my parents and me, and nothing made a difference. The smallest thing could set him off.
Whilst I pity Jace’s family situation and don’t doubt that has had an impact on his mental health. Being passed from pillar to post, never feeling like you belong or you’re wanted. I do understand the predicament she’s in and the danger her young children must feel. Not feeling safe in your own home as a child is very unsettling and a trauma you couldn’t understand unless you’ve experienced it.
And the effect any kind of recreational drug has on these disorders is to increase the magnitude and the frequency of the violent outbursts. Because they heighten paranoia and insecurities.
From my experience, these things don’t get better with age. As the person gets bigger, they get more emboldened, with the freedoms that come with age, the more they can battle against you.
I hope they all get to a solution where everyone is settled and somewhat happy in their lives…
Before I get attacked, I know she’s a terrible mother and he deserved better from the start. I’m just saying unfortunately, I understand the situation and there’s more factors at play than just that.
So, Uh, Where TF is he then? And why aren’t more of you commenting asking that?! Look, I think Jenelle, Barb, David, Andrew… ALL of them aren’t people I would want raising a child. However, I’d say he likely is better off with Barb for the sheer fact that she’s the most familiar. I’d love to believe that him being placed in a foster home with loving and caring parents might be the solution but he’s so grown and set in his ways, and almost aged out, that I don’t see that being a solution either. I really will be honest and say I don’t know WHAT is the solution but the lesser of all evils, I’d say, is Barb. Again- NOT saying she didn’t exude verbal/emotional abusive behavior/traits, but she DID have him for a long time and I think if the courts were able to somehow mandate that he go into mental health treatment of some kind and get on proper medication, that it’s probably the best bet. I feel for Jace- his entire family has failed him. His mother most of all- IMO. All she did was bitch that her mom “took” him from her, only to get him back and then ship him off all over the place because she couldn’t handle him, or, rather, didn’t want to even attempt to handle him. She allowed her ex husband to physically assault him. I’m sure she physically abused him as well- not to mention the chaos, yelling, manipulation and just dysfunction. Then, as Jenelle would do, she shipped him off to his Bio dad- before even looking into Andrews situation and environment. SMH. Someone needs to take Kaiser and Ensley before it’s too late for them too.
@sir ~ see my comment below (you can use find function) re: theashley’s conscientious coverage, esp of minors.
Jace’s whereabouts do not need to be published online.
Yikes to this comment section! 😬 Both Jenelle and Babs deserve kindness and grace. Just as Jesus gave to the rest of us. They’re both just two generations of a very broken family, as most of us are. I feel bad for all involved and I pray they will heal and grow.
I get the feeling Amen and Dickie Mcbutts are actually Jenelle and possibly Tori too. Who defends a person like Jenelle? 🤢 🤮
lol. Never ever did I defend Jenelle. Maybe you should check your reading comprehension. I said-Barb was also abusive to Jace. Screaming is harmful to children. As I pointed out already, it changes their brain receptors. Causing anxiety/depression/ptsd. As to where you got the idea about Jenelle. I truly have no idea. People like you, who defend Barb and pretty much give her saint status are the sick ones. You refuse to see that Barb was in fact, harmful to Jace. I think it’s pretty obvious that he should have been placed in an adoptive home from birth.
Well, then, Jenelle probably should have listened when Barb suggested that.
Wherever Jace ends up next, may God go with him and raise him up out of his pain.
People need to stop blaming Jenelle, Barb and everyone else for how Jace is. Do you not realize how extremely hurtful that is? Anyone can have mental health issues, no matter how you were raised. You can live a “picture perfect life” and still have mental health struggles. I will say that Jace being bounced from one home to another will only make things worse than better. He does need to go somewhere and Jenelle is right; those treatment places are expensive and are rarely covered by insurance. So many people who struggle with mental health are unable to get help. She could try bringing Jace to a hospital where he becomes a patient and they can help with getting him treatment. Sometimes that’s better.
Jenelle has the money to pay for it, stop making excuses for her shit behavior and her inability to actually BE a parent (to any of her children). She has more than enough money to cover his treatments, but has made the choice, several times over, to not do so. Her insurance would actually cover the vast majority of it, as she has fantastic insurance. If she has the money to afford where she lives, her current lifestyle, these massive parties (including her upcoming “divorce” party which is going to cost well into the hundreds of thousands of dollars…..she can afford to take care of her damn kids like a grown up. FFS
Yes, it is entirely possible, even likely, that many people can/will/do have mental health problems that aren’t necessarily related to their home life. However, we know for a fact that many of Jace’s issues ARE a direct result of Jenelle and her inability to be a parent or even a halfway decent person. I don’t care if it’s “hurtful”, sometimes the truth hurts. Jenelle removed all of his treatments, took his medications (and in the past has admitted to USING his medications herself!) and removed any possibility that he can get help with his mental health problems. The fact that you can’t see, or rather are unwilling to see, how damaging that is to a STILL DEVELOPING CHILD, makes me fear for any children that may be, have ever been, or perhaps will be in your care-because you’re as delusional as she is.
Why are you ignoring the actual facts here? Forget how anyone feels about Jenelle as a person and look at her history of parenting….she fucking sucks! A judge had to ORDER her to get tutoring for her children who were YEARS behind educationally. She had to be ordered to have them in school in the first place. She’s been investigated numerous times by CPS and still has multiple current cases open. She had to be ordered to take her children to the doctor. I mean, be fucking for real here, she’s a shit person and she has had a hand in ALL of Jace’s issues, along with those of her other children too (who also have issues, including mental health and behavioral issues).
Man I can’t stand people who excuse away neglectful, abusive pos people. Y’all deserve the same cell.
I absolutely can’t not stand behind anyone defending Janelle is this comment thread! Yes I’m sure he has mental issues, yes I’m sure he’s a hand full and hard to deal with, is all of this directly related to her parenting.. yes
Stop making these poor kids lives headlines. They didn’t choose this life. Be it Elliot/Issac, Jace, Carly, etc, give these kids some semblance of privacy.
In Other News – Isaac – now Elliott – has come out as gay. I LOVE THAT KID! How he is a product of Kail I will never understand. Nature over nurture for reals. Best wishes and Happy Pride, Elliott!
I honestly didn’t know that gay people change their names now. That’s new to me. Ok. 👍.
He changed his name to get some distance between himself and Teen Mom. And technically he didn’t change it, he’s just choosing to go by his middle name.
Why the downvotes? Homophobes on The Ashley? If you have the guts to downvote, have the guts to say why.
I downvoted because this thread was about Jace. It seemed an inappropriate place to tell me who Isaac is now attracted to or why it matters. I’m not worried about a 16 yr old kids hormones. Seems weird.
Well, then don’t read the latest article on this site. You’ll be clutching your pearls for sure, MAGA!
@didi ~ um, no one is ‘maga’ or ‘homophobic’, and it’s odd that you jump to THAT as your takeaway.
commenters were simply indicating that discussion of isaac doesn’t belong on a post about jace. 🤷🏼♀️
it’s fairly disrespectful to theashley’s work to derail her comment sections with what YOU (apparently) want to see discussed right this minute.
like, give her a chance to catch up on news and compose a post, ya know? 🙄
I will read it because it’s about Isaac. Therefore comments should be about Isaac. I’m not mad at the kid. He can do his thing. I think people’s identity is greater than who their attractions are with though. It seems now we have pigeon holed Issac because of this one thing.
This is a heartbreaking post about a teen mom kid whose life has been extremely tragic. It’s wonderful that elliot didn’t have that same experience but bragging about his happy ending on a page of Jaces tragedy is actually just cruel. Then going after people who realize it is even more cruel.
I don’t think anyone is surprised at this announcement
Unpopular opinion (apparently) but… I think it’s awful the amount of people here saying that Jace is doomed, never had a chance and will end up an addict on the streets. While I absolutely AGREE that he has had a chaotic childhood with awful parents. I think it’s important to remember he is still so young and not a lost cause. He needs help and he needs to want help. If those two things can happen then he can turn things around. He needs people in his corner even if it’s internet strangers because his own family can’t be bothered. I also think that if he is in a place where he can accept help then maybe going back to Barb wouldn’t be that bad because she’s the only person who’s ever tried to get him help. Out of all his parents Barb is the lesser of 4 evils.
I ONE HUNDRED percent agree!! So many people in this world come from very bad childhoods and they grow up and do the hard work it takes to become a better human. He is young and nobody knows who he’ll be in five year let alone ten or twenty. I pray he will go back to Barb and together he can heal through love and patience.
You actually want him to go back to the person he kept running away from?! How does that make sense?
You have no credibility like was stated down below. Be gone.
LOL, but you do?? I’d love to hear how more credible you are than me.
100% agree with the first part of your comment, and you are right, he is still young enough to turn things around and I pray that he does. Of course, that would require some guidance from a capable adult, which is why it astounds me that so many people are suggesting he should wind up back with Barb. I have no doubt that Barb loves and has/had the best intentions when it comes to Jace, but love and good intentions dont make you a good parent. Did you know there was an entire documentary on Barb and how she couldn’t handle raising a kid, yea, her teenage daughter ended up getting pregnant and addicted to drugs. Oh, and it also showed her attempting to raise her grandson, you can watch her screaming his entire childhood and forcing him to choose between his mother and grandmother (so sweet!). The doc was called 16 and Pregnant and then continued with Teen Mom 2. But by all means, lets hope Jace ends up with the lesser of 4 evils, when we know Exactly How That Will End!
How about wanting Jace get some real help, for once in his life, from someone that wasn’t a POS? how about wanting that for Jace? Crazy, right? Bring on the down votes!
Do I think she is his best option? No. But I do think it’s the most realistic one. He is 16 so he doesn’t have a lot of options, putting him in foster care would be difficult at the point let alone placing him with a family capable of meeting his needs. Barbara was at least able to meet his most basic needs better than his other parents. And hopefully (a big hopefully here) she has learned something over the years.
I will give you that and find no fault in your comment. Barb is the most realistic choice. All I am saying is Jace is in this current situation because he had a very difficult childhood, one that Barb was not able to navigate and failed to mitigate any trauma he sustained, among other things. Why is it so awful to want the best for Jace and in a perfect world realize that what he needs is a third party to step in. In probably won’t happen but given his options, isn’t that what’s best for Jace?
I agree Barb was part of the problem but also think her having him on meds and in therapy puts her a head of the others. But yes in a perfect world a proper 3rd party would likely be the best option or if MTV would step in and pay for a facility and continued services. It’s great to want the best for him that’s why I hate to see all these comments of people so quick to write him off. I can’t imagine being a teen in his situation and then seeing these types of comments about himself. He’s so young with his whole life ahead of him. I truly hope he gets the right help and becomes a well adjusted adult and break the cycles of chaos.
“Cris angels garage sale”
Seriously whoever writes is the funniest person alive
Jenelle has proven that money is no issue for her. What she means is that she would never give up her lavish lifestyle and parties to take care of Jace. The party she is about to throw for herself is so disgusting. Those kids are the only victims in Jenelle and David’s relationship. Yet Jenelle is celebrating her divorce while her kids sit at home neglected.
Poor Jace, he never had a chance in life; he was doomed from the start. Children always pay the price for the parent’s selfish life choices.
I hate when people blame Barb. Barb is the only mother jace ever had. He most certainly had stability and guidance with her. If a small boy grows up watching his egg donor act the way his did, he’s going to grow up a mess. I can 100% guarantee without a single doubt in my mind, if Jenelle had walked away and let jaces real mom raise him, he’d be a completely different kid. Watching your egg donor not give a single crap about you while simultaneously telling you the only mother you have is the bad guy, gas lighting and mentally/emotionally abusing you like that, your entire childhood, it’s going to FOOK a person up SOO BAD. Anyone who doesn’t cut Barb some slack doesn’t understand psychology in the slightest. Also going to live with Jenelle doesn’t suddenly erase 14 years of heartache and mental torture. Now he’s being forced to live with the source of all his pain. He needs to be with Barb but Jenelle probably won’t have that. She’d never chance that working out and people saying Jace is better off with Barb. Because it’s never been about Jace for Jenelle. It’s only EVER been about her image and about “winning” against barb.
Barb forced Jace to live “with the source of all his pain”! Barb did that!! The going got tough with Jace and she shipped him right on over to Janelle and David…Barb did that!!
And you don’t think that Barb was in Jace’s ear, tellling him what POS his mother was?? It’s on tape.
I don’t think anyone on here is a psychologist but I damn sure know when I see emotional abuse going on and I saw a lot of that from Barb. It’s literally a tv show, you can watch old clips online FFS. I’m not making it up, Barb sucked. But maybe we should ask Jace? Oh wait, we can’t, because he’s in full on spiral turning away from Everyone who had a hand in raising him..including Barb!!! Gee, I wonder why that is?
I do not entertain people who clearly know nothing about what abuse it or what an abuser looks like. You are ignorant and uneducated and your thoughts about any of this should be fully ignored.
Are you kidding me? Screaming at a child is a form of abuse. It actually changes the receptors in the brain. It causes PTSD. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Yet, you act like an elitist snob know it all. Barb did abuse Jace with her constant screaming. That is fact. Everyone is his life has abused him. The fact that you are trying to downplay it is just unbelievable. You are the ignorant one.
I grew up in an extremely mentally/emotionally abusive childhood. I do know what it looks like. I could make a list of all the issues it caused me. Why don’t you go educate yourself.
1000% this^^^
Thank you, finally some sanity!
Congratulations. Like most people of the human race, you grew up experiencing some sort of abuse. We’ve all had it rough, we’ve all seen ugly times, Barb is still not jaces abuser.
Barb is the ONLY person who ever gave Jace love and stability. To downplay that is just unbelievable
Please, you’re replying to all my comments, but you won’t entertain me?!?
I’m calling out abuse you’re providing cover for one and that’s the best you got?
THE ABUSE WAS ON TV, it was filmed! Don’t know what I’m talking about?!? We’re all on her commenting about a tv show. Please provide your credentials to be so high and mighty.
Apparently point blank wants to assume that I was just “yelled” at. Like most people. She/ he wants to talk down to me and also downplay my abuse. I’m not allowed to respond. I was viciously tortured in about every way you can imagine. I don’t understand how they don’t understand we aren’t “defending “ Jenelle. We are pointing out the fact that Barb was not a good caregiver. I think they just lack info on mental illness, abuse and trauma.
I think a huge part of the controversy is because nobody is perfect. Not one of us. Every parent gets upset, overwhelmed, yells or cries or goes off the deep end. Parents say things and do things they shouldn’t and things they regret. All of them. Every parent. The difference between Barb and Jenelle is that Barb loved Jace deeply while Jenelle couldn’t be bothered with Jace. Barb was a human being in a tough spot and she tried to take care of a young baby that wasn’t hers after a hard life of her own. I don’t think it’s that people don’t understand. Nobody is dumb to trauma or abuse, ever all endured it. Some people have compassion and appreciation for the role Barb played to jace and some don’t. That’s all.
Jace is going to wind up a homeless drug addict or he will be in prison……………i hate to say it but eventually he will definitely get mixed up with the wrong people on the street………………
Stop blaming Barbara. She did her best for Jace.She really loves him.She stepped up when his mother abandoned him.Jace is mentally unstable and I hope I’m wrong but I think he will never recover.My heartbreaks for Jace.
Why are you defending his abuser, it’s disgusting! The proof is in current situation. Jace spent most of his time with Barb and he’s a mess. She’s on camera constantly screaming and Forcing Jace to take sides his entire childhood. . ITS ON CAMERA! WATCH THE SHOw!
Then when Barb couldn’t handle Jace, not that she ever could, what does she do?
She ships him off to the worst possible people for more abuse, after years of screaming she would never let Jace live with David because Barb knew what would happen! I know I’m being extra but I’m going to die on this hill.
Look at where Jace is today. Look at who spent the most time raising him. STOP DEFENDING THE ABUSE THAT THIS CHILD WENT THROUGH!
It’s his mother, mother’s boyfriends, grandmother and absent father. Jace was let down by everyone in his circle!
Barb is NOT his abuser and the fact that you would even say that means you are absolutely not credible in any way to speak on Jenelle or Jace. You are ignorant, you are uneducated about this topic, you have absolutely no idea what the truth is.
No, you’re right, all of Barbs kids turned out great! Just that there’s that pesky little thing called evidence in that the ABUSE WAS FILMED!!! But please, since you know soo much more than me and apparently have the inside scoop, how’s Jace doing these days? Is he thriving from all the love and care he got from Barb?
You say a lot of words for a person who knows nothing about this stuff. You should practice knowing what you’re talking about before you open your mouth or type your words.
AND she’s well into her 70s, which would make it hard to raise a “typical” teen boy.
Had a feeling Andrew didn’t have what it takes to raise Jace. I was naively hoping Andrew had a support system with parents, aunts, uncles and siblings nearby to help with Jace. Sadly doesn’t seem to be the case. To echo everyone else, really sad for him. No doubt Babs has her issues and is FAR from perfect, but she is the only one who ever showed him love and at least some degree of stability. Understandable why she could no longer handle him, though 😢
If she couldn’t handle Janelle why would she be able to handle Jace?? Serious question.
Your smear campaign against Barb, after all the years we WATCHED her be the only person who cared about Jace and his well being, is as disgusting as Jenelle is. You have literally no idea about how abuse works or what an abuser is and you should learn to keep your mouth shut on topics you know absolutely nothing about.
It’s not a smear campaign, it’s calling out blatant emotional abuse and trauma of a child. I’m never on the side of abuse, apparently you are and you might have a problem.
You are clearly just like Jenelle. Not one single sane person or decent human or good mother would ever support the things she has put her innocent kids through. You show all your colors by trying to gas light everyone into thinking Barb is the bad guy. Her faults end with Jenelle as far as being a mother goes. And Jenelle picks up the blame for being a shit mother and never giving one fuck about her child. Barb stepped up and took care of a baby that was not hers and she did the best she could under the circumstances of a dead beat abusive mother popping in long enough to cause chaos and break hearts before she left again.
Have you noticed that some of the comments on here seem to be the same person on different accounts???? I absolutely agree with everything you’re saying. Screaming is abuse. People want to push this narrative that barb is a hero. Well, my stepdad raised me and he was nuts. Does that make him a hero though just because he raised me??
The same could be said about dickie mcbutts and amen. Generally the one pointing fingers is the guilty one.
Without a doubt, Barbara has made plenty of mistakes as a human and a mother. We don’t know Jenelle’s childhood and I’m sure there was a lot of hurt in her life. But Jenelle is just as responsible for her actions as a mother as Barb is for her actions as Jenelle’s mother. We watched Jenelle put this poor kid through hell as her own mom begged and cried over for Jenelle. Barbara tried to raise a kid when she was old and worn down and Jenelle made it so incredibly hard on them all. You all fighting over whose worse, Jenelle or Barb is wild. If I have a baby then leave him with someone who supposedly was so awful to me, then I’m fully responsible for what my child goes through. Obviously.
Does Jace have a savings account?
From his TM money
Or did his egg donor spend that too
I think MTV either created trust accounts for the kids or had the teen parents do it.
Truthfully, I always thought that was Jenelle’s reason for wanting Jace back. She ate enough of UBT roadkill and wanted some Arby’s fine roast beef, courtesy of her eldest’s trust fund 🤷♀️
If Janelle won’t pay for Jace’s treatment because buying Range Rovers sketchy boyfriends, vacations and partying are a more important use of her OF money, then maybe those funds could be put towards treatment? But he’s so far gone at this point that it’s questionable if treatment will help.
I’m not surprised. Jace never really stood a chance and that was clear when he was a baby sitting at the screen door watching Jenelle storm out over and over. Both of his parents failed him totally and completely. I knew all of those comments about how this was going to be good for Jace was naive. Andrew has never taken care of Jace and that wasn’t going to suddenly change now. Jace barely knows the guy.
Wherever Jace is, I just hope he’s safe. And I hope he eventually finds people who truly care about him and want what is best for him.
Those scenes of toddler Jace walking around in the swirl of screaming chaos when Janelle was being her usual selfish garbage self arguing with Babs were tough to watch back then. Unfortunately not surprising this is the outcome.
Janelle is such a horrible monster and deserves nothing but the worst in her life. Being a good parent doesn’t take intelligence (which she has none of) or money (which Janelle does or at least did have). It’s about making decisions that put the best interest of the children first and foremost. She failed spectacularly on that front with all three of her kids, but especially with the boys.
So where is Jace now? It’s sad that strangers who have no relation to him are the ones most worried about his well-being. I so badly want SOMETHING to work for him. If something doesn’t start changing for him soon, I fear he’s going to end up in the criminal justice system as he gets used to living life on the run like this. The boy has no guidance, It seems like nobody cares about him or what happens to him. My heart hurts for Jace.
So Barb couldn’t care for him anymore and think he’s better off going back to her….? He spent his life with her and is a mess.
A lot of people on here either did watch the show or never watched it as an adult. Saying Jace is better off with Barb is like saying he’s better off with Janelle or David, they are all unfit and abusive. I guess people here don’t mind a child growing up with an abuser as long as it’s a quirky older gal with glasses who makes funny captions.
But where is he? We are more worried about Jace then his own mother
Jace was set up for failure from the beginning. I genuinely believe that if he had been placed for adoption, things could’ve been much better for him. I know Babs did her absolute best, but she was already quite old when he was born. Jenelle was off doing drugs and being a fkn mess, too self absorbed to grow up for the sake of her child, bouncing around to whatever dick would take her.
At this point, Jace will be lucky if he makes it to 18 without being arrested. The best case scenario is that CPS steps in and takes custody of him and he’s placed with a family that can help him navigate life in ways that his family hasn’t been able to. Jenelle loves to lie until she can’t anymore, so it doesn’t surprise me that she’s pretending everything is fine.
I really hope Jace can find some kind of peace. His whole life has been so unstable and he never deserved to grow up in so much dysfunction.
Yea, Barb was great, Jace spent 95% of his childhood with her and he’s super well adjusted, happy and had a safe place to live and thrive. Wait, actually none of that is true.
Did anyone actually watch the show or just learn about Barb From The Ashley captions? If that’s the case I get why you would think she’s a lovable goof, but watch the show as an adult, Barb participated in the abuse!! She was NEVER capable of raising Jace, regardless of her age. I do agree with you that Jace should have been placed for adoption but let’s not give the person that was his only primary care giver the majority of his life some award when this kid is in full crisis and has been since day one. Please stop sugar coating abuse because it comes in a package you like.
You are a full blown abuser yourself, I doubt in my mind. To run this smear campaign against Barb and act as if Jenelle is not the one to blame, only someone who is also like Jenelle could EVER support or back her and instead blame the only mother Jace ever had, Barb.
So you watch someone on tv abusing their grandchild and give them a pass (ok, that’s sick and evil). But you read a few comments, you disagree with, from a perfect stranger, no knowledge, facts, evidence and decide, I must be abusive. Wow! Get help!
There is 100% no way I’ll continue to argue with someone like you. I know an abuser when I see one.
*I have NO doubt in my mind
Barbara was in NO position to take on raising Jace. That was Jenelle’s responsibility. Babs did what she could to make sure Jace had a stable home, went to school, got the help and medication he needed. She was the only stability in his life while Jenelle was off doing whatever she wanted, which never included being a mother. Let’s not act like Babs is the problem here. She did what she could. She is not capable of continuing to raise him. He needs more help than what she alone can provide.
What are you talking about? Andrew is a big time international model. He works in China.
Sometimes you just have to pullover to the side of the highway and really give them kids a telling off.
Jenelle’s not so bad. It’s hard being a mother.
This username lol
Did you even watch teen mom when she was on it ? She didn’t give a shit about Jace made such a song and dance about how Barbra wouldn’t give him back and then when she did get custody of him she sent him off pretty sharpish . Also stopping his meds isn’t what a decent mother would do
I’m pretty sure this persons point was that Diane Downs would be fullt supportive of Jenelle’s “parenting”
This poor kid-Jenelle spent the last 16 years doing everything she could to damage and traumatize him, and sends him away every chance she gets. Sending him to Andrew? Who he didn’t know? She didn’t even go with him or visit the place he’d be living? Fantastic parenting. I worry over what will become if this child. He’s been failed over and over.
I hope Jace moves back in with Barbara, starts taking his medication again, and takes care of his grandmother in her old age.
Oh how my heart aches for Jace. I hope poor Kaiser and Ensley don’t end up on similar paths as Jace. These poor innocent babies.
I was just thinking Kaiser is also doomed.
The lights are on…But no one is looking out for those kids. People sometimes call me cynical, but the opposite is naivety.
So Jenelle lied…. again?! Nooooooo
At this point, I’m waiting for Jace to ask to be emancipated. Barbara I think is his best family option but she just may not be able to take him back, he’s ran away from the mother who claimed to want him back so bad several times and she was all too willing to ship him off.
It’s just really sad this kid has never really had a chance.
Empty vessels rattle the loudest. The real tragedy is the market of people who are invested in this freakshow…schadenfreude. You listless in life, bottom feeding parasites. In a civil society, people like her would be forced to straighten up. She is sex worker filth.
Unfortunately, I think that at this point, Jace is going to have to be institutionalized, because there’s no one in his family that can handle him. Babs is too old/can’t physically handle him, Jenelle doesn’t want him and Andrew; oh my G*d! I feel so so horrible for him, but it was obvious a long time ago that he was going to have issues.
What’s so crazy about some of the TM moms, is that they are completely delusional about the damage that they have done to their kids through their terrible decisions (I’m looking at you Amber, Jenelle, Kail and Farrah). I think at this point they’re only keeping this sh*t show going so that they can be ready with the cameras, once the kids are of age and ready to drop the bombs. Don’t get me wrong, it’s going to be epic, but it’s only going to add to the tragedy of there lives, and the moms are going to keep denying any fault (we just saw this last week with Leah and Amber). This is only the beginning…..
Don’t forget Cate. She is toxic and traumatizing to her daughter Carly
@amelia ~ correction: cate is toxic and traumatizing to *brandon and teresa’s daughter* carly.
(she is also toxic and traumatizing to HER three daughters)
Didn’t Janelle boast about how.much money she was making on OF? $30k a month is not unreasonable for in patient hospitalization, but there is no church group that’s going to help with that, especially not for her – with her social media history. Another question: didn’t Janelle refuse to give him the meds his doctors prescribed? How can she she think she’s done everything possible to help Jace if she rejected the advice from professionals? Also, why not try the drugs now since she knows not taking them doesn’t help? It’s a shame, but we all saw this coming.
you really think $30,000 for one month is acceptable? That’s ridiculous amount
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I feel so terrible for Jace. I pray he is all right wherever he is. I cannot imagine how he feels being tossed around from home to home.
You can take the girl out of the trailer park, but you can’t take the trailer park out of the girl. There was never going to be a happy ending with this sociopathic, mood disorder.
Jenelle didn’t live in a trailer park.
The point is it’s inherent. Do you understand subtext?
You don’t have to live in a trailer park to be “trailer park trash,” Kail is proof you can be TPT while lying in a mansion.
And she thinks by telling Andrew that Jace needs privacy and telling US that means anything. She’s telling someone what he needs but couldn’t provide it for herself. Her life isn’t about social media and influencing. She’s too dense to get a real job. She forced those kids in videos and trends for clicks. F Nelly Evans Rogers Eason!
This witch fought to have this child back in her custody, only to fail him multiple times and send him away without any consultation whatsoever with him or anyone with a brain, which basically shows it was all about “give me back my child” because he’s mine and my property. She couldn’t handle him and shipped him off yet again. I couldn’t even read the entire thing I’m so mad. She should be stripped of all children and let them have a chance at a decent life. If ANYONE were to adopt it should have been her!!
So, she admits that she wanted custody of jace for soooo long, and yet when the opportunity arose she wanted to send him to his dads in a different state? She really flexes about the oddest things that one….:🤦♀️
My grand daughter does not see her dad often. We have her in therapy and talking to a therapist on a weekly basis. This breaks my heart that he won’t call or come see his daughter. I hope Jace gets a positive role model who gets him in a sport or hobby. Something that teaches self discipline like karate or jujitsu. I’ve given up on Barb, Andrew, and Jeanelle. Whose gonna step up?
Jenelle is a lying sack of dog shit! Everything is just fucking roses in her world, my ass! Cannot stand this broad….😡
She has ZERO connection that she and the childhood she created by both her actions and inactions is why Jace is struggling so much. I feel so sorry for him. Her “not my fault” attitude makes me so angry
She tried shipping off the younger boy not too long ago. I hate you disgusting backward swamp Americans.
Yep, those pesky Americans. All of us are bad and the same as jenelle! 🤡
Maybe a charity can help. A local church for guidance? Something other than what they are doing!
A church helping Jenelle Evans?
A doomsday prophecy cult
No, helping Jace
This was hard to read, I was really hoping Jace could find a good place to thrive. I remember seeing him on the show as a baby/ toddler, going through years of abuse, mother and grandmother screaming and fighting non stop, always putting him in the middle and I am heartbroken that this is how his teenage years are turning out. He would have been so much better being placed for adoption! Carly is thriving! Barb screwed up Janelle and saw Jace as her do over kid. This was so selfish she knew she couldn’t take care of him but wanted that camera time for cash. This sweet kid never had a chance growing up with a bunch garbage trolls!
Right there with you. My heart dropped when I saw the article.
IS ANYONE SURPRISED?? She sent Jace there to get rid of him with the excuse that Andrew is his biological father but he has no parenting experience whatsoever and Jace is a very conflicted kid with issues, of course Andrew couldn’t handle him.
As soon as he turns 18 and he isn’t Jenelle responsibility anymore he’s gonna end up on the streets, mark my words.
We all saw it coming, even if we were hoping for the best.
every. single. word. out of swamp queen’s 🧟♀️ disgusting mouth is 💯 a lie.
i have literally no idea why these podcasters, youtubers, ‘news’ outlets (eg the sun 🤡) continue to give her a platform to spout her absolute bullsh*t. 🐂💩
Heartbreaking, a child is not a toy you play with and throw away when you get tired of it. Perhaps if his mother supported his treatment instead of deciding she knew better than the professionals assessing and treating him, he’d be in a better place mentally and emotionally but he right now he’s a lost soul. I hope he finds a soft place to land and some peace in his life.
Cock and drugs is her modus operandi.
I feel so bad for Jace 🙁
I wonder where he’s living now, though. I had hoped Andrew was sober and mature, that doesn’t seem to be the case.
I was wondering the same thing about where he has been living since he left Andrew’s. I wish the article had mentioned that. As for the whole thing with Barbara being pulled over for speeding because of a family crisis, that makes zero sense if she was going to “The Land” because no one has lived there in a year. What the hell was she doing?
Maybe Jace knows nobody is there so he thinks he can take shelter there?
Maybe he made reference to Barbara that he was making his way back to the land to snatch his motorcycle and run off into the sunset, sadly I don’t think it would end well.
@morgan ~ theashley is VERY conscientious and thorough, and wouldn’t post anything that could possibly put anyone (esp a minor) in danger.
i’m 9️⃣9️⃣% sure she has also said she doesn’t post anything that she herself is unable to verify.
that said, surely everyone is wondering (at least a little bit), and obviously hoping he’s safe.
Here’s an idea, why don’t you actually be apparent to your children and help them through this shit??. The only reason why he was sent to andrews in the first place was because she doesn’t want to be a mother
She’s incapable of a healthy relationship with any males. We all know she just wants her favourite little girl. She really is warped beyond belief.
Who listens to this evil, insidious bitch, really?