It’s been about four months since Kail Lowry‘s engagement to her fourth baby daddy Elijah Scott blew up following a girl coming forward on TikTok and claiming she slept with Elijah on a cruise in 2024. In the months since CruiseGate, Kail’s been relatively quiet (for her) and cryptic about their breakup and where their relationship currently stands.
However, in a recent interview on Lala Kent‘s Give Them Lala podcast, Kail opened up about life post-CruiseGate and discussed what it’s like co-parenting with four of her exes.
“I get a lot of s**t [from the public] for leaving my kids’ dads, because I left all of them,” she told Lala.
Kail also revealed that Elijah is back to living next door. (As The Ashley reported, Elijah owns the home next to Kail– which is how they met— and had moved into Kail’s home and rented his out while they were together.) Kail stated that, now, she will put their kids in a wagon and take them over to his house for his parenting time.
“Wow, you’ve got it really figured out!” Lala told Kail. “I guess when you’ve been [coparenting] for so long, you really have it down to a science.”
“It’s chaotic, but I don’t know any different,” Kail replied. “This is what I know. This is what my kids know. So, I’m sure there’s some level of trauma that my kids are going to experience and look back on.”
Kail also discussed her dating situation, stating that she is “absolutely not” trying to date right now and that she’s not open to dating in the future. (This is, of course, very opposite of what her ex-husband Javi Marroquin claimed last month when he went Live on Instagram and blasted Kail for various things, including for allegedly planning to move her latest alleged boyfriend— whose name is Isaac— into her home with her kids. Kail has never directly addressed Javi’s claim and hasn’t confirmed or denied it.)
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During her interview with Lala, though, Kail stated that she does not need a man.
“I think that’s what people get really upset about,” Kail said. “I’m not a victim of my circumstances when it comes to men. I’m not going to stay where it doesn’t serve me any longer and it takes a lot to impress me.”
Kail stated that she doesn’t need anything from a man because she already has everything she needs and does it all herself.
“And if I can’t do it, I can hire someone to do it so I don’t need a man to come forward and come into my life and do the things,” she said. “I don’t need it.”
She said that her pesky habit of getting pregnant almost immediately upon dating someone new is also something she considered before having her fallopian tubes removed after the birth of her twins
“There’s not a lot of dating before I get pregnant, usually,” Kail stated.
“Really? So, it’s kind of like, ‘We’ve seen each other a few times and now we’re stuck together forever?'” Lala asked.
“That’s pretty much how it worked with Elijah,” Kail— who has stated in the past that she got pregnant with Rio the first time she and Elijah went to Poundtown.
Still, though, Kail insists that she doesn’t have as many notches on her headboard as fans may assume.
“Contrary to popular belief, I actually can count on both hands how many people I’ve slept with,” Kail said. “They think because I have kids with four men that I am our here galivanting around. Not true at all. I just fall in love so fast and I think that I get pregnant right away.
“…that’s the bigger problem. It’s not the babies, it’s the dads that I have to deal with!” she continued.
Lala— who shares her daughter Ocean with her ex Randall Emmett— was curious what it was like for Kail to juggle so many co-parents.
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“I know what it’s like to have a baby daddy,” she said. “What is it like having— you have four of them right?”
Kail— who shares son Elliott with Jo Rivera; son Lincoln with Javi; sons Lux and Creed with Chris Lopez; and babies Rio, Verse and Valley with Elijah— told Lala that she only considers herself to have three baby daddies– and an ex-husband.
“My ex-husband was never a baby daddy,” Kail declared. “…Never was, never will be. He’s my ex-husband.”
Lala— who, unlike the rest of us actually has a life and has obviously not been following the Saga of K-avi for the past decade or so— asked Kail if she and Javi have a “good relationship.”
“Not saying there weren’t trying times, but through it all we have always maintained Lincoln’s best interest,” Kail insisted. “No matter how many personal issues got in the way, or how convoluted everything got, him and I always maintained what’s in the best interest of Lincoln.”
“I would say that is a healthy and thriving co-parenting relationship,” Lala told her.
Kail’s statement is confusing, given Javi’s rant on Instagram Live on June 2 where he absolutely unleashed on her, making it clear that they are very much not in a good place. (It is possible that this podcast episode was recorded before June 2, however. If that is the case, then Kail’s answer would make more sense, given that she and Javi had been on seemingly decent terms in the months leading up to Javi’s rant.)
Lala also wanted to know how Kail handles having seven kids and four baby daddies.
Kail explained that in the state that she lives— Delaware— parents usually get 50/50 custody, unless they agree otherwise. She stated that she has that arrangement with Jo and Javi, but has a “90/10” split with Chris— where she has Creed and Lux 90 percent of the time– because of how “toxic” her relationship with Chris was.
“He also lives out of state, so he can’t necessarily have 50/50,” Kail said, adding that when Creed and Lux go to Chris’ house, it’s on the same weekends that Isaac and Lincoln are with their dads, too.
Lala— who, last year gave birth to her second daughter Sosa— told Kail that she chose to use a sperm donor the second time around so she didn’t have to deal with another baby daddy. (In March, Lala claimed that she and Randall are finally in a good place in their co-parenting relationship, but the exes had been in a nasty custody battle for years before that.)
“I was so traumatized by the experience of co-parenting and, just, his presence on the planet was triggering to me, and I was like, ‘I am getting a sperm donor.’ So my second daughter, there is no dad involved.”
Kail went on to talk about how she has to parent each of her kids differently, due to who their dad is.
“What I know about Jo and his parenting style, and what I know about Javi and his parenting style, I think they’re all very different,” she said. “It’s the child and the other co-parent. Because if you co-parent or discipline or do something the other co-parent doesn’t like, that could put you in a whole other situation that you never even thought of.”
Kail said the task of parenting each kid differently is “sort of difficult,” although she said she no longer has to communicate with Jo at all, due to their son being 15 years old.
“I don’t speak to Jo about anything, for any reason,” Kail said. “…there’s nothing I really have to say to him at this point…if I needed to text him I would, but I just don’t have to.”
She went on to talk about how all of her kids— except for Lincoln, whom she conceived while married to Javi— were “Oopsie Babies.”
“They were all ‘pleasant’ surprises, I would say, with the exception of Number 4,” Kail said.
“Number 4” is Creed– who was born in July 2020. Kail has been open with the fact that she had planned to have an abortion, but wasn’t able to go through with it after arriving to have the procedure.
“It was a very toxic time,” Kail said. “Creed, Number 4, was the most trying time in my life. That was a very difficult decision because I did contemplate possibly terminating the pregnancy. But I’m so glad that he’s here and I’m so glad that I decided not to.”
Speaking of pregnancies, Kail told Lala that she had “instant regret” after having her fallopian tubes removed after the 2023 births of twins Valley and Verse.
“I know it’s crazy, and people think I already lost my mind three kids ago– maybe even four kids ago— but I don’t know if it’s mental illness. I don’t know if it’s biological. I don’t know. I had instant regret,” Kail said. “I know there’s always IVF but then it’s like, how selfish can I…I don’t know!
“Do I want more kids? The complicated answer to that is, I would have more kids if I could,” Kail stated.
“Wow!” Lala said. “You’re a savage!”
Later in the podcast, Kail stated that— other than dealing with all of the assorted baby daddies— the hardest thing about having seven kids is time management.
“I do really love to spend one-on-one time with all of the kids, in addition to family [time with] all of us together,” she said. “And I never want anybody to think that I don’t make sure that each of my kids has that. It is important, no matter if you have one kid, if you have five kids, if you have 10 kids, that one-on-one time, even if it’s just five or 10 minutes that we carve out every single day, that is challenging. Because I know that these six kids need me right now, but this individual child needs me for 10 minutes undivided so I think that’s the hardest part.”
You can watch the entire podcast interview below!
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Damn girl how about you do your kids, baby daddies, yourself and you hoo ha a much needed break like for 2 yrs minimum
Two things…
I really love how Kail speaks about her situation as if it’s normal. “It’s chaotic, but I don’t know any different, This is what I know. This is what my kids know. So, I’m sure there’s some level of trauma that my kids are going to experience and look back on.” Um yeah, that is saying it lightly. Kids shouldn’t have to have chaos as a normal. SMH. Way to be a mom, Kail (rolls eyes).
“I know what it’s like to have a baby daddy,” she said. “What is it like having— you have four of them right?” LMAO This may not have been an intended burn on Kail from Lala exactly, but indirectly it is and I’m here for it.
Damn, ya’ll harsh af
“Opens up about her dating life”. What dating life? She never lets that 🐱 breathe. She settles down too fast to even “date”.
@frontdoor ~ as the saying goes:
kail 🥬 doesn’t date, she mates 🍆🍑
🤢🤭😹🤣
No wonder Elliot changed his name. New daddy is Isaac!
Karl thinks by acknowledging that she is giving her kids trauma she won’t be frowned upon for it. STAWWWP WITH THE SHITTY MEN CHOOSING KARL!
I appreciate your opinion. I’m not a fan of Kail either, but it’s just not necessary to call her a “whore.” Then you have someone jump all over you on a gossip site for having an opinion. I do think Kail had so many kids because she has no family and she will now. I
Fair enough.
While I don’t really like Kailyn or agree with her life choices, I do think she is the most successful Teen Mom. Or at least the one who overcame the most. She was raised with no family except an alcoholic mother which I’m sure was similar to being raised by Amber. She has created a life for herself and her hoard of kids where they seem to be doing good and are well adjusted kids… the oldest two are even bilingual. She makes bad decisions when it comes to men though
She’s definitely the most driven, the one who can finish what she starts, even if what’s she’s driven to finish is not always the best choice. Finishing college? Great. Starting various podcasts that seem to last and that pay her bills? Great. Landing a new crush by baby trapping him ASAP? Not good at all. Following through on every unplanned pregnancy she’s ever had? Probably not the best idea….but at the same time, she’s taking care of those 7 kids (with help from various baby daddies, nannies, and who knows what other staff)… but it’s getting done. Jenelle has 3 kids and is constantly in and out of CPS cases. Amber has 2 and one is estranged from her and the other lives in another state and barely sees her.
Shes successful at dealing with the life she’s made herself and successful at getting what she wants…. But the life she’s made herself made herself and the things she wants may not be at all healthy for her or her massive brood of kids. She, herself, even said it might be mental illness, but she wants more kids. Still.
The big issue is that she talks so openly about wanting to abort Creed. Not that I’m against abortion or feel women shouldn’t talk about it. But I don’t know how Creed will feel about knowing that. That’s a conversation that she’s going to have to figure out though.
Yeah.. it was hard enough hearing it from my mother there once, and then she denied it every time after that. That’s gonna be a hard convo to have, but I feel like if she’s honest about what she was going through and feeling at the time, and explains that she couldn’t go through with it and it’s the best decision she could have made, when he’s older he’ll understand.
I agree. There is a right way to approach the subject. I can’t imagine how you felt. Sad
Kail got lucky that Elliot seems to be a pretty good kid because “no direct contact with my 15-year-old’s other parent” would not work for everybody.
“I caught him drinking again. No driver’s ed this summer?”
“MAKE SURE he does his homework. Check the parent portal, don’t just take his word for it. Like a 7% in math when I looked the other day.”
“Does he really have no curfew on weekends over there? I feel like he’s just trying to play me but if it’s true we need to talk.”
This part! With most teens that would not be possible while still being a good parent.
“Kail stated that she does not need a man.”
Independent is the first thing I think of with Kail. Lol jk!
We’ve watched her jump from relationship to relationship since she was 16 years old!
She puts the chaos in to their mives and instead of stopping it, she just keeps adding more. Would not be surprised if she IVFs the next baby(or more) with the next guy next door. Maybe this company she’s in talks with for a show about Issac….?
She was heavily pregnant at her wedding with Javi. She’s trying to make it sound like this was a planned pregnancy after marriage. Nope! 4 baby daddies is more correct than this spin
They had already gotten legally married the year before so her and Isaac could get on Javi’s military health insurance.
It’s nonsense to believe that any of her kids were “oopsie babies” after Issac. This is why people can’t stand her. When you’re a grown ass college educated woman on a show about the consequences of unintended pregnancies and proceed to get pregnant once every two years… you are planning those pregnancies!! If she wanted to trap Chris (gross) or the Keebler elf, so soon after dating, I don’t know. But she absolutely planned those pregnancies, she is not that stupid, just seriously damaged.
This is exactly what whores do. She is a gross nasty,nasty,hoe.
Whores get paid.
She did all this for free or she was the one paying.
Am I right in thinking she had an abortion before Isaac? So she really should have known how to prevent after that!
kail 🥬 is gross, inside and out.
and the filter 💨📸 in that first pic is working double overtime.
#sorrynotsorry
Is that why she looks weird?!?!? Too much filter!
What happened to Kail’s PCOS and her trouble conceiving? She only brings that up when it’s convenient, otherwise she’s running around telling everyone she gets pregnant if a man sits next to her on a couch.
Was that Maci? We were hear a LOT about her PCOS when Ryan wasn’t on the show for a while.
After reading this twisted tale, I must say that the random placement of Barb was sorely needed.
Also, Kail should probably self-reflect a bit and realize that she can’t be that difficult to impress if she is so quick to fall in love with people. (Not to mention how long she was obsessed with Chris the loser.)
Kail is more of a loser than Chris. If she outs Isaac on TV I hope he has thick skin. Once you go on a reality show you become fair game on SM.
That was supposed to say puts, not outs.
“‘It’s chaotic, but I don’t know any different,’ Kail replied. ‘This is what I know. This is what my kids know.’” Ummm…this is what your kids know and you’re saying this as if it’s a normal, non-dysfunctional way of life for kids to grow up in. Seriously? If this is what they “know,” then it’s pretty much guaranteed that they’re going to repeat her patterns of having multiple kids with several different partners because they’ve never been told that this is not a healthy way to have relationships or their own families. That’s so unfair to those kids.
Gross.
“I guess that’ll cause them trauma. Heehee”
And Kail only has one condition for a guy to impress her. And it’s his physical description.
Lala does not have a life.
Yes she does, she is a wh**e just like Kail.
I don’t like or agree with the way Kail lives and I know next to nothing about Lala but I know this about you…you hate your fellow women. You are not a girls girl at all. You sit on your high horse and judge every other woman on the planet and I sincerely hope someone knocks you off of it. You’re a nasty person to jump right on calling other women whores.
STFU, as you know nothing. 95% of the time I stick up for women, I never stick up for whores, and speaking of whores, I forgot Farrah on that list. Would I be correct in assuming you are either Lala or Kail, pretty sure you are one or the other. Now, since you have nothing better to do it is time for you to go do what Nancy told you to do, so do it.
@anita ~ who is nancy?
Kail is going to die a lonely, miserable bitch just like my mother