During the most-recent episode of her podcast, former Teen Mom 2 star Kail Lowry opened up about a battle she’s having with her (first) baby daddy Jo Rivera.
Kail— who, as ‘Teen Mom’ fans are aware, is no stranger to a bicker-and-brawl with her bunch of baby daddii— told her Coffee Convos podcast co-host Lindsie Chrisley that she and Jo disagree regarding how to parent their son Elliott now that he’s almost 16 years old. Kail and Jo have split custody of Elliott— something Kail says she and Jo need to reconsider once Elliott begins driving.
“Fifty/fifty [custody], the older they get, doesn’t work for us. For Elliott himself, who’s about to be 16 years old in a month, 50/50 is not ideal,” she said. “He does not want to settle down at one of our houses and then get up a week later and have to go to the other [parent’s house]… 50/50 [custody] doesn’t work but also the kids deserve to have the option [to be with their dad].”
As fans know, Kail is also mom to son Lincoln (with her ex-husband Javi Marroquin); sons Lux and Creed (with Chris Lopez) and three kids– Valley, Rio and Verse with her ex-fiancé Elijah Scott. During the podcast, she hinted that some of her kids have told her that they do not want to spend time at their dad’s homes.
“As time is going on, some of them are not happy going to their dad’s house and it stresses me out,” Kail said.
(She didn’t specifically mention which kid– or kids— she was referring to; however Kail immediately began speaking about Elliott after saying it.)
Kail stated that she and Jo “don’t see eye-to-eye” on the idea of letting Elliott come and go as he pleases between their homes once he’s able to drive.
“At this age, I’m for it. I know that, years ago, I got onto Jo and basically was like, ‘I think he should have more flexibility’ and that was when [Elliott] was younger, and Jo kind of pushed back on it,” Kail said. “… [Kids] 12 and up, I think they should have more flexibility if they want it. Jo doesn’t agree with that.
“Jo does not want his 15-16-year-old son coming in and out [of his house],” she continued. “He’s expressed that and he’s made that very clear. I feel very differently about it. I think that [Elliott] should be able to come and go at both homes with respect, obviously; text and give us a heads-up.”
As The Ashley has previously reported, Kail has stated recently that she and Jo have no co-parenting relationship and instead communicate with Elliott individually, rather than each other.
“Now that Isaac’s 15, we don’t have a whole lot to fight about at this point,” Kail said in April. “We really only communicate if we absolutely have to because I think that, for the most part, we’ve gotten through most of the hard stuff. And that’s not to say there won’t be more stuff coming in the future, with him graduating high school in the next couple years and cars and all of that… [I] don’t really talk to Jo about anything.”
“Jo and I don’t communicate,” Kail said last year. “Like, we have no communication whatsoever. We don’t talk.”
As fans will remember, Kail had a very public falling out with Jo’s wife Vee Torres last year, resulting in the end of their Baby Mamas No Drama podcast. Kail has not revealed recently where her relationship with Vee stands, although Elliott maintains a good relationship with his stepmom.
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I don’t see why he can’t go back and forth if he chooses too. I don’t see what the big deal is . The cast on teen mom makes everything more complicated then it needs to be
So Kail will talk to all of her podcast listeners about coparenting, but won’t actually talk to the actual coparent about anything
people hating on transpeople for a CHILD thats not even trans in the comment section. Cant believe the ashley is not blocking ppl for that.
With Kail it’s always hard to know how much to take with a grain of salt. Kail is trying to make it sound like there is something wrong or off with Jo’s parenting. But, it’s entirely possible that Elliot feels like he gets away with more at Kail’s so he prefers to be there. At Jo’s house, Elliot is one of only two kids and it seems fairly obvious that Jo is stricter. Elliot is one of seven at Kail’s so there is no way she pays the 16 year old any real attention.
This is what happens when you have all those kids with 3 men.
Four!!!
what’s with this comment section arguing how a kid they don’t personally know expresses and identify as when this is about his parents custody of him?? but i feel for everyone all around this situation because elliot has expressed he doesn’t wanna go to jo’s and why on the show and i get both kail’s and jo’s pov’s and don’t think either one is wrong and hope they can find some type of middle ground, elliot seems like a happy kid who loves his parents and i hope that’s always the case for him and any kid in a similar situation
Agreed, this situation is very common. Even married and happily married parents face challenges with how to discipline and raise teens. They are older you have far less control and not everyone handles it the same way. Some pull the reins tighter others allow for more grace/space.
Sounds like Jo doesn’t like the fact he won’t be able to force Elliot to stay at his home any longer.
Everyone shits on Kail for her choices, but she has some amazingly mature, well mannered, and emotionally intelligent kids. Jo dema ding Elliot be at his house more than Elliot wants to is only gonna drive him away more.
Aw, he just wants to spend time with his son. I know he was never perfect but I always thought Jo was one of the better teen mom dads and I felt like kail really tried to keep him away. It was sad and unfair.
His name is Issac. Next he’ll be wearing a dress and calling himself Elizabeth. Ridiculous. He should have been raised by Jo.
I agree
Is that your problem??
He goes by his middle name now, nothing wrong with that and for you to be saying anything negative about a 15 year old says more about you than it will ever say about him.
15 year-olds need guidance which he obviously didn’t get from his abomination of a mother. He should have been raised by jo and his family. He wouldn’t have been brainwashed and likely would be a totally different kid.
His middle name is Elliott and he chooses to go by his middle name. He’s not the first person that prefers to go by their middle name instead of their first name and he won’t be the last.
Elliott is his middle name. He’s not the first person who chooses to go by his middle name. Why is that hard to grasp for you?
Elliott can be shortened to Elli…seriously, coming out then transitioning to a girl would NOT be too far of a stretch for him…why is that so hard for you to grasp
Why do you jump to that conclusion?
Because of who raised him…that’s why
Jasmine is jumping to that conclusion because she doesn’t seem to understand the difference between being gay and being trans.
How would that affect you in any way? So what if he does decide that he’s transgendered. It’s not your life. Let people live it literally has nothing to do with you.
So males named Elliot are just assumed to be transitioning into a woman because they can shorten their name to Elli? Do you not know how stupid that sounds?
And so what if he did transition?
How you identify gender wise or sexual orientation is not determined by who raised you. Elliot would be who he is had he lived with Jo his whole life.
Seriously some of y’all with the Kail hate need to seek some help.
LisaLee, not when they’re raised RIGHT…anyone smart can see that ISAAC was NOT
Jasmine, for you to say that Elliot wasn’t raised right shows what your values are and how you judge people’s characters, because Elliot has shown so many times over the years what an incredibly kind, intelligent, empathic person he is. If you think he’s a bad kid because he changed his name or identifies as gay, you’re a deeply corrupt person to the core. I am sorry for anyone in your orbit who has to face your cruelty.
Have fun in hell Rackoo, you and anyone else that supports this crap are going there
Corinthians 6:9 “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals”
Oh Jasmine. Anyone who tell someone else to have fun in hell for supporting a child will never see heaven.
You’re hating on a child. Get off your self righteous high horse. You wouldn’t know Jesus if he was standing right in front of you. God doesn’t hate anyone and it’s blasphemous for you to hate others in his name.
Wrong Sam, I’m hating on the sin (homosexuality) which is not blasphemous because it’s what we should do…love the sinner, hate the sin
No, Jasmine, your not just hating the sin. Hating a part of who someone is, is hating them. Homosexuality isn’t a sin. But even if it was, it isn’t your place to judge other people sin. That’s Gods job. You are commanded to love your neighbors not hate them for being different than you.
And Isaac can be shortened to Isa which is a feminine Latin name. And all of that is none of your freakin business, Karen
He was raised around pure degeneracy. The fact that people pretend this shit is normal is disgusting.
If Elliot decided to use a traditionally female name, he could just pick one. There’s no “requirement” that it be somehow related to a birth name. (I know of at least two transwomen who kept their 99.99% ‘male’ first names, name change is optional.)
When I had a job that involved checking IDs I was surprised by how many men in particular went by their middle names. The only real pattern I could tell was that it was more common among “juniors” and guys with names like “James Taylor” who got sick of the “Sweet baby James” jokes in junior high and had used “Dave” since they were 14. 😂
I bet if you have kids they don’t talk to you. Miserable human.
My kids LOVES me…all 3 of them. But I teach them right from wrong INLIKE KAIL FROM HELL
UNLIKE*
Actually no. You teach them love is conditional.
Letting him be himself is something Kail has done right. And if he changes his name to Elizabeth and puts on a dress, who cares? He’s not our kid. I, in fact, hope he does. He’s always been a sweet kid.
Who cares? God, that’s who
Then it’s going to be “””God””” ‘s problem, definitely not yours. And you’re definitely not God’s spokesperson. Go back to your cave
Actually, I’m one of many “spokespeople” for God because i stand against this crap
As they say, there’s no bigger hate than Christian love – excellent example of how unlike Jesus you’ll ever be, nor would he approve of your type of being a follower.
BTW Jesus never said a word about homosexuality. I know that’s hard for you to fathom right now but that word wasn’t used until much later, is thought to have been translated incorrectly.
And since you love your bible verses: try Matthew 19:12 and think on what it actually is saying.
You’ll find out and you won’t like how you find out
Does anyone remember the episode where kail and jo meet at the park? When Elliot picks up a stick, kail scolds him and says “it’s gross” and then he’s given a time out because he touches it again! As a mother of three boys, this blew me away. My boys love outdoors shenanigans but I would’ve never thought that picking up a stick was a dirty activity. Elliot is cool just as he is, but it’s not at all shocking that he is a feminine being.
I feel like kail would faint if she saw my boys picking crawdads from the creek and digging bugs out of the dirt then asking if they can keep them. 😂
he was raised by jo, he’s had 50/50 custody of elliot this entire time. if you mean u wanted jo to not allow him to feel free to express himself then he wouldn’t be this happy kid we see now and you’re honestly really weird af for that for saying that about a kid u don’t even know
There’s a lot of scientific evidence to support the fact that upbringing, sex ed at school and peers do not cause people to become gay or queer.
It’s natural diversity.
(Young) people do kill themselves when they can’t be who they are because of stubborn ignorance.
When you haven’t done real research on the subject, read actual scientific good sources about it, not psuedo scientific or incorrect bible interpretations and just repeat what populists who are trying to create distractions say, sit down
Eliott is his second firstname, he can choose how he wants to be called.
Ick, homophobic much?
Being phobic means being afraid…I’m not afraid of homes BUT it is against God’s law so I WILL NOT accept it…NO MATTER WHAT
It is also against Gods law to judge. And to love others as Jesus loved us. You don’t get to just pick and choose which rules to follow. Thats not how it works.
Speaking THE TRUTH is NOT judging
“We all need Jesus” would be speaking the truth. “You’re all going to burn in hell if you don’t hate gay people” is not my Gods truth. You have a whole different God. Some sort of false idol.
I will very simply say, it’s possible your heart is in the right place with trying to be a believer. But you are going about it all wrong and you need to seek a true relationship with God. God does the judging, not us. He could choose Elliot as he is, over you, and that’s just how things are. God loves us all. Just because you hate someone doesn’t mean God does. Preaching hate because you pick and choose bible parts that you approve of is NOT how God intended things.
I bet you’re fun a a party
I wouldn’t know, parties are sinful so I steer clear of them
‘pArtTiEs aRe sInFuL’ ~ @jasmine has GOT to be trolling. 🙄🥴
also, she doesn’t ‘steer clear’ of parties; she simply isn’t invited to any. 😹🤣
Homos*
You are psycho and need to be committed.
Parties are all drugs, alcohol and sex…and Gar Bear, I get invited to plenty but I NEVER go
sure jan ~ er, jas…🙄🥴😹
Elliot is a male name. It’s always been a male name and it’s his middle name. Weird to have such a strong moral stance on people going by their actual middle names. Are you ok?
Why so hateful? And why are you assuming he’s going to transition just because he wants to go by his middle name? Lots of people choose to go by their middle names, including celebrities. Lucy Hale and Reese Witherspoon are the first two to come to mind. There is NOTHING wrong with this and people like you who are hating, is just plain weird.
Elliott is old enough to decide where he wants to be. It would be foolish of Jo to try to force him to stay longer than he wants to, it will only push Elliott again.
My guess is Jo doesn’t accept who Elliott is because he’s more conservative and that’s why Elliott doesn’t want to stay with his dad for too long.
Not only that, Jo may not recall how busy kids that age get if they get a job, school can become more study intensive or their social calendars are full. A parent expecting their kid to sit around happy to be home isn’t going to like it when they have even less control of their comings & goings for all the above, much less demanding set parenting times be followed as well. I reckon they’ll learn that as they go & hopefully Jo sees the value in more flexibility. BTW I do NOT mean kids around this time need to be given freedom to do whatever, whenever. Obviously parenting is still needed, but it becomes a lot more guidance and support and less needing them in sight at all times, overseeing everything.
I think it simpler than that and the proof is Kail’s 16 and pregnant. Joe was raised with rules and involved parents and Kail was not. Obviously his mom wasn’t wise to them getting busy. But she always appeared to be talking to Joe and reminding him of his responsibilities/duties to work and his son.
I can see Kail’s point for sure but sons not getting on with a paren who likely has more rules and expectations will be tenuous. Especially when you have a cool parent who isn’t as uptight.
You really can’t force a kid that is 16 and drives a car to be where he does not want to be. No judge would agree to that. At 16 a kid can be an emancipated minor. Agree with Kail.