Tyler Baltierra Says Thinking About How Adults Failed Wife Catelynn Lowell as a Pregnant Teen Makes Him Want to “Prevent Every Unnecessary Adoption”

“Justice for Catelynn!”

Tyler Baltierra has made it clear over the past year or so that his opinion of adoption has changed drastically since he and his now-wife Catelynn Lowell placed their daughter Carly for adoption at her birth in 2009. Once a staunch advocate of the adoption process, Tyler has become very (very) outspoken about the pitfalls of adoption, and now advocates against people placing children for adoption.

In a recent interview with the Cake For Dinner podcast the Teen Mom star stated that his opinion on adoption changed after witnessing how poorly Catelynn was treated as a teen birth mom by everyone— including the adoption counselors, their parents and others. According to Tyler, this has made him want to prevent “every unnecessary adoption” and speak out about what he says are alternatives to placing a baby for adoption.

“At the age that I am now, I look back and it’s hard not to get angry a little bit,” he said on the podcast. “It’s hard not to be like, ‘Where were people?'”

“We know where I was: in jail and/or being a general nuisance to society so…

Tyler stated that, should one of his three daughters ever find herself in a situation similar to Catelynn’s, he would be there for them no matter what.

“I can’t imagine not being in that hospital room, even going through what [Catelynn] went through,” he said. “Like, where was everybody? How dare they not be there for her in the way that she needed. And not only our parents but everybody involved: the adoption agency, everybody. Honestly, we were listening to all these adults and you have this poor girl– child— in crisis…”

(The Ashley recently watched Catelynn’s 16 and Pregnant episode and Cate’s mom April and Ty’s mom Kim were in the room when Catelynn had Carly; however, neither one of them seemed to be very supportive during that period, particularly April.)

“Shocking, right?”

As The Ashley has previously reported, Carly’s parents, Brandon and Teresa Davisclosed Carly’s adoption in 2024 and have not allowed Catelynn and Tyler to communicate with her since. In past interviews, both Cate and Ty have expressed that they may have made different choices regarding Carly had they had legal counsel and adults looking out for them.

“I look back and am just like, ‘Where was the support?’ This [adoption] was so unnecessary,” he said.

Tyler went on to say that he hopes to prevent other teens and parents from making the same decisions he and Cate made.

“That’s why my position is kind of like, I just want to prevent every unnecessary adoption,” he said. “That should be everyone’s goal. We shouldn’t want more babies that need to be adopted. As a society, we should be like, ‘What’s going on?’ 

“Not sure I like that idea…”

“I look back now and I just think of how many people really failed [Catelynn],” Tyler continued. “And I think about— now as a father— her dad didn’t even come to the hospital! He didn’t really talk to her at all. He was in Florida, and I just think about that a lot. I just can’t wrap my head around it.”

Tyler suggested several ways birth parents can avoid going through with an official adoption.

“There’s a lot of alternatives [to adoption],” he said. “There’s permanent legal guardianship. There is kinship adoption within a family. There’s multiple ways to provide safe, alternative care for children without erasing their identity, without falsifying birth certificates and stuff like that. As far as adoption goes, it’s just a legal transfer of parental rights. It doesn’t really mean anything other than that.”

“What in the H-E-double hockey sticks does he mean by that?”

“There’s ways to go about it where you don’t have to sever the identity and origin of the adoptee, and also maintain a little bit of protection for birth parents,” he added.

Tyler stated that the United States needs to do a lot of work on its approach to adoption. He then confirmed that he’s very motivated to do part of that work.

“I’ve written multiple senators and congressmen, and even state representatives, to even just listen to me,” he said. “I’ve had no callback yet but I’m still gonna keep writing them.”

“You need to tell the senator that this is Tyler…Tyler from MTV! He’ll know who I am.”

Tyler also spoke about the documentary film he’s producing about the adoption industry in the United States called “All You Have Is Love.”

“[It will be about] kind of where it started from and how we got to this point and the supply and demand issue that we have,” Tyler said of the film. “So, I advocate [for] the adoptees. Birth parents, yeah, I believe we need advocacy too, but these adoptees are the only ones who are forced into this dynamic and this lifestyle without any consent. Adoptees get these rights taken away and it just doesn’t make any sense to me.”

@tylerbaltierramtv I’m so excited to finally announce the documentary film that I’m producing along with so many other extraordinary people. This is by far the most important project I’ve ever had the honor of being a part of & I’m so proud of it! This is the story of the American Infant Adoption Industry & this is the story of truth that the industry never wanted to be told. But if you know me, you know I don’t take it lightly when people attempt to silence me or anyone else that’s marginalized like biological parents & adoptees. This is the story that needs to be told & is long overdue! This is… ”All You Have Is Love: The Untold Story of America’s Infant Adoption Industry”… COMING SOON to a tv/theater screen near you! #Adoption #AdopteeVoices #AdoptionIndustry #AllYouHaveIsLove ♬ original sound – Tyler Baltierra

Elsewhere during the podcast episode, Tyler also addressed how he talks to his other three daughters about Carly’s adoption and why they’re no longer allowed to see or speak to Carly.

“We have pictures of Carly in our house. I refuse to just bury her. I will not do that,” Tyler said. “I think that’s a huge disservice not only to Carly but it’s a huge disservice to my girls [at home] because that’s their sister…

“All I say is that when [Carly] can [come see us] maybe she will. I don’t want to build up too much hope for her in the case that Carly wants nothing to do with her sisters,” he said. “I don’t think that’s going to happen but it could.”

You can watch Tyler’s full interview with the Cake for Dinner podcast below.

RELATED STORY: Farrah Abraham Calls Former ‘Teen Mom’ Co-Stars Tyler Baltierra & Gary Shirley “Woman Abusers” for Speaking Out Amid Her Feud with Hairstylist; Claims She Called CPS on Tyler

(Photos: Instagram; TikTok; MTV) 

79 Responses


  1. Jeeeeeeezzzzzz…..TyTy and CaCa are such little little bitch whiners/victims. Stfu already.


  2. Without even reading it- your adoption *was* necessary. You didn’t know you were getting MTV money down the road, you were teenagers living in a trailer with your own separate addiction-addled parents married to each other. There was no financial means or even family to lean on. This kid has a great life with parents who desperately wanted her and have provided so much you nerds could never. Their access to voicing their opinions should be unplugged.


  3. The way he said “…..in the case that Carly wants nothing to do with her sisters,” was gross. Setting it up so Carly is the bad person if she doesn’t want contact. Not that she’s been hounded and used by these people who only put themselves first.

    Of course he’s making a documentary. He hasn’t bled the Carly topic dry yet.


  4. Carley won the adoption lottery. If anyone had to pick parents, Brandon and Theresa win hands down over these two unemployed knuckleheads even with MTV money.


  5. Tyler being all about “kinship adoption” Welll gee Ty… which family would you have placed Carly with? April and Butch? Your sister who has her own addiction issues? Cates dad who you both admit wasn’t around? Tyler’s mom who clearly wasn’t giving a lot of support at the time either?
    Bottom of the line, adoption only became a problem when Cate and Ty were expected to respect boundaries and they didn’t want to.


  6. These comments are terrible
    Do people realize these were two young kids with drug addicted parents who abandoned them during one of the hardest times in their lives? It takes a lot of love to give up a child hoping for a better life. I watched as they were promised they could have a open adoption including a relationship with “their child.” I am old enough to know “white babies” were hard to come by so the adoption agency and the adoptive parents had a valuable asset with these two during this adoption. I have watched those same parents of three more children working together with minimum of support and opening up to the world about the difficulties depression anger regret most parents who go through both sides of adoption face. Tyler is absolutely correct when he states the only person who had no choice in adoption is the child. Before you continue to vilify anybody on either side you need to do your own research on children who have been adopted. How they question why or siblings, health history, biological family, and the adopted parents “with all the rights” can decide what and if they want to share with the adopted child this information. Tyler and Cate are adults now and like most of us have brains that have developed well beyond their years. I remember when all these “girls” were hitting up Tyler on social media as if he was a single man telling him he was too good for Cate and hoping he would leave his wife and family and He didn’t. I saw a couple who through the hard times stood together and made it through (so far) to the other side. I can’t imagine a 17 year old girl going through childbirth with no parent by her side and commend Tyler and his mother during this time. Stop with the hate because if you took the time to listen he is absolutely spot on about adoption. Go talk to those especially those with awesome lives with their adopted parents the trauma they themselves deal with on a daily basis of why about everything…


    1. They were promised a SEMI open adoption. Meaning that up until Carly was 5, they were entitled to regular updates, photos and visits. After that, it was Brandon and Teresa’s discretion whether they got that or not- which they did for several more years until Catelynn and Tyler screwed up. Problem is Cate and Ty look at Brandon and Teresa as glorified babysitters instead of what they are-Carly’s parents. They claim to have wanted a better life for her which she has but instead of focusing on that and respecting boundaries, they want to pity themselves.
      How you have any sympathy for people who were texting another teen to try and get around Carly’s parents, I don’t get.


  7. I have a 15 year old son. If my son had gotten a girl pregnant, in no world would I allow adoption without fighting as hard as I could for the unborn child. Cate and Ty were absolutely failed. They were children. Children have parents for a reason. Children are not meant to make such big decision. Carly is where she’s meant to be. Good for her, she has loving parents and a good life. But I do also feel deeply for the loss Cate and Ty feel.


    1. If you watched, you know that Butch and April fought hard for Cate to keep Carly. It was a huge part of the storyline. They even went to court about it. April would not consent to the adoption so Tyler had to hand off Carly in the hospital parking lot.

      That being said, Butch and April were also a major reason why it would have been a really bad idea to keep Carly. They were on drugs, volatile, negligent, etc. In this case, adoption was the right choice.


    2. The only loss Tyler and Cait feel is the loss of fame and money they could’ve made off of Carly. Which is why they got pissed off in the first place because Brandon and Teressa said no to posting pictures of Carly on-line! However, Tyler and Cait did it anyway, because gee wiz! It’s THEIR biological money maker, I mean, kid!


    3. Their parents were completely against the adoption. Cate & Ty were the ones who insisted on it.


  8. This is what we call selective memories. Does he NOT remember going to court to fight April who WAS VERY AGAINST THE ADOPTION?! Neither she nor Butch were with the shits and tried talking them out of it at every turn. Tyler remembers what he wants to remember and hes trying to rewrite history because he cant come to terms with the fact he and his bitch mom were the PRIMARY LOBBYISTS FOR THE VERY ADOPTION HE NOW REGRETS DEEPLY.


    1. I remember April not even parenting her own child choosing drugs over Caitlyn so she had no dog in this fight… Maybe it was Caitlin who should have been adopted to a family who could/would be there for her. BTW if you had listened to the whole podcast you would see it was not the adoption but what happened before and after that he trying to help other in the same position to have the full story and make sure if adoption is their choice the child has rights too…


  9. I feel like he has such a wrapped view of adoption. Their specific situation is very different from any other adoption. It is extremely rare for teen parents with unstable families to go from having nothing to becoming rich in just a few short years. Let alone being on tv. Their adoption story in not the norm and therefore incomparable and he shouldn’t be advocating like it is.


    1. You are so wrong. Their story is absolutely the story of many teen moms betrayed by their families adoption agencies adopted parents who changed their minds about open adoption after getting their hands on a child of their own out of fear of losing the child. Tyler is right the only person who had no choice in this matter is the child who are now left with no rights if the adopted parents decide it is what is best for themselves or the child. Even as adults if both sides do not agree the adopted child has only one recourse and that is to partition the courts (if you can afford it) and up until the last 20 years a judge ruled against the adoptee in lieu of the bio and adopted parents every time. Do your research…


      1. Carly’s parents did not reverse their position on open adoption the second they got their hands on a baby. They kept open communication with Cate and Tyler for *years*, they brought Carly to C & T’s wedding, they met up with them for visits, they sent them pictures, Cate had Teresa’s phone number and they texted regularly. Communication was not cut off until Carly was *fifteen* and only after a lot of outrageous behavior on the part of Tyler and Catelynn.

        Their original agreement was for 5 years of pictures, updates, and annual visits. After a couple years, B & T asked them to keep their pictures of Carly private and they did not want their visits to be filmed for MTV. They did not want their texts or phone conversations about Carly to be aired on Teen Mom. All of this is perfectly reasonable. When Cate and Ty broke those rules, Brandon and Teresa sat down with them and again laid out rules, along with their concerns about putting Carly in the public eye, but they reiterated that they wanted to maintain a relationship with C & T. Rules and boundaries continued to be ignored by C & T, B & T were vilified online by C & T’s fans, as well as by C & T themselves. It was only then that contact was severed, and Teresa just asked for a break originally. As usual, C & T chose to take that to the extreme, and ended up blocked after they sent even more texts, and Tyler started trying to communicate with Carly’s friends (minors!).

        The narrative that B & T are evil baby stealers who lied and stole C & T’s child is not at all factual. If C & T had been even semi respectful, and actually cherished their relationship with their biological daughter more than the adoration of their fans, they’d still be in touch with Carly today. B & T have a good, open relationship with their adopted son’s biological mother; even C & T have confirmed that. I think that lends a lot of credence to the argument that B & T *want* their kids to be in contact with their biological families.


  10. 1). The house was a disgusting, drug addled, chaotic mess
    2.) Cate didnt even feel welcome or safe in her own home. She moved in with Tyler’s mom for quite awhile.
    3.) The only reason MTV picked up this trailer trash in the first place was because they were going the adoption route.
    4.). The only reason the trailer trash people were given additional space was because they went the adoption route.
    5.) Without MTV money, these two would be living in a shack with Butch (when he wasn’t in jail) and April (when she wasn’t high). They would have taken that poor child down with them.

    AND MOST IMPORTANTLY:

    6.). They would have had regular open contact with Carly if they simply would have stopped mentioning her on the show, showing her pictures online, and advertising her business. Her parents wanted her to grow up like a normal person and wanted her to have her privacy. They essentially sold the relationship with their child for MTV money.


    1. WRONG AGAIN: Recent, unverified photos of Carly, the daughter placed for adoption by Catelynn Baltierra and Tyler Baltierra, have circulated online as of April 2025, leading Tyler to address the unauthorized leaks. While fans sometimes share images, Tyler and his wife generally respect the privacy requested by Carly’s adoptive parents, Teresa and Brandon, often keeping her off the MTV show. Photos of Carly, now a teenager, have appeared on social media, with some reports suggesting they were taken from a school website or shared by fans. Adoption Agreement: Catelynn and Tyler have an open adoption, but it does not include showcasing Carly on Teen Mom or on their personal social media, a boundary respected to protect her privacy. Recent Updates: Despite limited public images, Catelynn and Tyler have discussed her growth and their emotional journey, acknowledging the limitations on their visits Do your research before you state lies as fact…js


      1. Oh please. Just stop.

        Cate has shown and read Theresa’s texts on the show despite her asking her not to. And then announcing on the show that Theresa was unhappy about it.

        Tyler stated on the show that he can do what he wants with respect to Carly and her parents can’t tell him what to do.

        They keep talking about Carly and even began communicating with people they thought were her friends in an effort to get information on her. They have admitted this. That is such a huge violation that there is no coming back from that.


      2. @md ~ so you’ve resorted to posting AI slop in a lame attempt to defend these losers. 🙄
        is this the ‘research’ to which you keep referring in your multiple inane comments? 🤣😸
        how very… intelligent of you. bless your heart.


  11. I’d love to see who grows up to be more successful in 10-15 years, Carly vs. the 3 Not-Carly’s… actually we all know the answer to this already 😂


  12. Carley girl, change your name when you turn 18. Go to university far from these people. When your bio sisters turn 18 to 20 get in contact, but stay far, far away from the MTV sock puppets. No good will come from any relationship with them.


  13. Ty, you told cait, if she kept the baby, you’d be gone, so stop with this crap, you really are an idiot.

    You shouldn’t be lecturing anyone about anything, not ever.
    You horrible person.


  14. Oh look. It’s Tyler not taking about Carly’s adoption again.

    Yes, their parents failed them. Totally agree. Butch and April were and are a mess. But, they also pushed hard for Cate to keep Carly. Who the hell in that family would have been a good candidate for kinship adoption? And what third party would agree to a legal guardianship where Tyler and Cate retained their parental rights? Does he even realize what he’s expecting of other people? No one would have taking guardianship of Carly knowing that Cate and Tyler could show up whenever and just take her. And that’s incredibly damaging for the kid, who deserves to have a stable family. But, Tyler’s not actually concerned about that.


    1. He also is completely NOT considering what their lives would have been like if they weren’t on the show. They’d still be poor and living in hell. No octagon, working two jobs each, no therapy, addicts all over. Carly is SO lucky she was adopted and they are very fortunate that they had cameras following them around and paying them. In the real world that he is advocating against, Carly’d be in the same position that Cate was back then and he would be the new Butch and nothing would change for generations.


  15. It’s unbelievable that minor biological parents are not required to have legal counsel prior to signing over their parental rights.

    Catelynn and Tyler definitely were not fully informed of the terms of their adoption contract and seemed to have been misled by their adoption agency (unfortunately, this is quite common). Side note: they also did not heed the agreement by posting photos of Carly online.

    That being said, it was the most mature decision they have ever made. Whether they were on Teen Mom or not, Carly was and is better off with stable, financially secure parents who seem to have provided her with guidance, an education and many extra curricular opportunities.

    Catelynn and Tyler were too young to provide her with a stable home at the time and they knew that. Several years later, as young adults, they were able to have Nova and provide her with a stable home.

    They did the most loving thing by placing Carly into the care of older, more stable parents. But yes, legal counsel for adoptions should be a must for all involved.


    1. Read Cate and Ty’s book. Cate had a guardian ad litem appointed for her by the courts, and they reiterate many times over that they were fully informed of what they were consenting to with regards to the adoption. Carly also had a court appointed guardian.

      Now, the point could be argued that a teenager could not fully grasp the emotional consequences of placing a child for adoption, but I don’t think anyone (regardless of age) really knows how they’re going to feel until they are in that situation. I do feel bad for Cate in that she was essentially backed into a corner when it came to her pregnancy: she could place the baby for adoption or raise a child in a home with April and Butch. Tyler’s mom had told them she wasn’t helping them raise a baby. Cate didn’t want her child to grow up the way she did, so she chose the adoption path. She made a good decision based on the information available to her at the time, and now she regrets it. That’s understandable. But if she had kept her relationship with Carly private, she’d still *have* a relationship with her.


  16. Butch and April were there as much as they could be. Warning them how much they would regret giving Carly up for adoption. Tyler was the one who thought their situation wasn’t good enough for Carly. You could always tell Cate wanted to keep her and would have if Tyler was willing to go along with it. She never really wanted the adoption, he did.


  17. We haven’t forgotten that Butch and April wanted them to keep Carly, saw the episodes more than once, Tyler and his Mom wanted the adoption, especially Tyler’s Mom. She kept saying what about college? And more. not once did express support in keeping Carly.


    1. “What about college” 🤣🤣🤣

      I totally agree with you, Tyler was the primary factor in causing this adoption considering he said he’d break up with Cait if she kept Carly


    2. And look at Tyler now with all of his college degrees.😬You know the degrees that landed him a stable job?🙄

      Tyler was the driving force with Cate agreeing to adoption in the first place. He threatened her that he would break up with her if she kept Carly so she didn’t.

      Love how they rewrite history.


  18. Tyler is such a tool!! He will do ANYTHING to try and stay in the limelight!! He and Cait are trashy losers who sit on their asses and do nothing but whine and cry about how badly they were treated. He says he wants to advocate to prevent every unnecessary adoption? How about advocating for dumb-ass loser teenagers to use protection and PREVENT an unwanted pregnancy!! No child should have the misfortune of being stuck with parents like Tyler and Cait. They exploit their own kids and make fools out of themselves to the entire world. No child needs that. And no child needs a father who gets off on doing Only Fans videos! But I guess he considers that a legitamite job, since he has no other. Thank God they can’t be near Carly!


  19. Jesus gawd Leah! These two are psychotically obsessed with that poor girl. They don’t realize THEY DONT KNOW HER. She’s no different than a kid they’ve met a handful of times except that she unfortunately got some of their hillbilly DNA. Focus on your ACTUAL kids and stop stalking her


  20. As an adoptee it’s best not to speak for me on adoption 😒 but that’s usually what happens.


  21. Do they not realize THEY are the adults failing Carly? Leave the poor girl and her family alone for five fucking minutes. The bit has been beat to death.


  22. Stop constantly talking about this poor teenager and get a job. Her life is good where she is and they’re being selfish! Get a freakin job dude


  23. As an adoptee, he’s proving the reason why i have no interest in reaching out to my bio family. Some of us do some dont. He has the mentality of all adoptees have trauma. Not all of us do. I can inly imagine how Carly feels needing to validate the image C&T created of her. Thats the burden i dont want to have and i’m sure after seeing it on tv she wants to just focus on herself and the family who tries to protect her.


  24. Without being rude, who exactly, in Cate & Ty’s trash bag of a family would’ve been a better option to raise baby Carly than her adoptive parents? Not one single person in either of those families could’ve given Carly the life she has now and if Tyler literally can’t see that then he’s far dumber than I ever imagined.


  25. Wow So much hate
    Tyler is correct
    It takes a lot of love to give up a child for what you hope is a better life
    Does not mean young girls should be encouraged to do so
    What I can say as a Grandmother
    White babies are a hot commodity in the adoption world
    We all watched as the adoption agency encouraged a young couple
    during the toughest time of their life how good they were to hand their child over
    Promises were made and not kept by the adopting parents
    I commend Tyler and Karly for this documentary
    There is a lot of trauma associated with adoption
    Not just for the Bio parents but for the child…


    1. “Promises were made and not kept by the adopting parents”

      That’s been debunked over and over. They allowed way more contact than they originally agreed to. What Tyler wants is shared custody, but only on his terms, and that was never going to happen.


      1. Kaitlyn and Tyler Baltierra do not want shared legal custody of their birth daughter, Carly, but they have consistently desired an open, communicative relationship with her. The adoption was closed by adoptive parents Brandon and Teresa in 2023, causing Tyler to express regret and frustration over the lack of contact. They recognize that their 2009 adoption agreement was not legally binding regarding visitation and that the adoptive parents have total discretion. Catelynn and Tyler have sought to maintain a connection, sending gifts and updates, which were deemed “inappropriate” by the adoptive parents, leading to a cutoff in communication. While they have fought for communication, Catelynn stated she would respect it if the lack of contact is Carly’s own choice, emphasizing that it should be “adoptee-centered”.Current As of 2026, they have expressed that they don’t have a direct relationship with Carly and have accepted that they might not have one as she grows older.


        1. What in the Chat GPT is this?

          It is a fact that while TM was on hiatus, Cate and Tyler did not reach out to Brandon and Theresa even once. It is a fact that they didn’t send gifts for years. It is a fact that they showed up hours later when they did get to see Carly. It is a fact that after being asked to stop texting, Carly continued to send numerous texts until she was blocked.

          After contact was cut off, Cate and Tyler didn’t just “express frustration.” They did multiple interviews, disparaging Brandon and Theresa. Demanding that they be told whether it was Carly who wanted to cease contact. It. Is. Not. Their. Business whether it was Carly’s decision or her parents.

          Cate and Tyler pay lip service to boundaries and respecting Carly’s decisions. They don’t actually respect anything.


        2. @md ~ yet more AI crap from you. if you absolutely insist on weirdly riding for these two miscreants, perhaps you should try using your own words. ya know, show off your extensive ‘research’. 🤣😸


    2. The adoption was only supposed to be more open until Carly was like 5 or something. Carly’s parents allowed Cait and Tyler so much more time than they needed to, especially since C & T were absolute losers as bio parents. Carly is probably so embarrassed to share their DNA


        1. Obviously because of how they behave and the flat out LIES that they tell to push their agenda. They were tormenting Carly’s parents on tv and acting as though Brandon and Teressa were the bad guys. When you come from loser families, your chances of being any better aren’t so great. Especially when both sides are loser families, as in Tyler and Cait’s case.


    3. The adoption was only supposed to be more open until Carly was like 5 or something. Carly’s parents allowed Cait and Tyler so much more time than they needed to, especially since C & T were absolute losers as bio parents. Carly is probably so embarrassed to share their DNA


      1. The open adoption agreement between Catelynn Lowell/Tyler Baltierra and Brandon/Teresa (B&T) was not strictly capped at age 5 for all contact, but rather included a specific requirement for recordings/photos until age 5. The agreement outlined annual visits at B&T’s discretion rather than legally binding, long-term visitation


  26. I still don’t understand why or how they just had a verbal agreement to an open adoption that put all the power in the adopted parents hands. It seems like common sense that they would have made that a legal agreement to make sure they had a visit every single year. I know they were 17 at the time but I think even a 17 year old would know that verbal agreements can be broken.


    1. There is no such agreement that would be legally enforceable. Once parental rights are transferred the adoptive parents can do whatever they want in terms of granting or not granting contact with the bio family.


        1. Unfortunately not. This is one thing I agree with Tyler on is if a birth parent is promised contact and chooses that family based on that it should be legally enforceable. If the birth parent starts to become an unsafe person then the adoptive family could apply to a judge to be allowed to change the agreement.


          1. You’re talking about birth parents being given visitation rights to children after their parental rights have been terminated. Which will give birth parents standing to later ask for more visitation and even custody. That is a very slippery slope.


          2. I know but I don’t think it is actually slippery. It would be very concrete as they are no longer legal parents. If the agreement says one eight hour visit per year or two eight hour visits per year or whatever it would not be able to be amended it would be the terms of the adoption. I hate the way Tyler and Cate have gone about their relationship with B&T but many birth parents who are respectful do get lied to and told they will have contact and then the adoptive parents don’t adhere to it because they really just wanted the baby. I think it would make adoptive parents only promise what they were actually prepared to follow through with. And if the birth parents started stalking/harassing the family or they were intoxicated/high when they had their visits the adoptive family could prove the visits were no longer in the best interest of the child and have the court agree they should be stopped.


    2. There could never be a legally enforceable agreement because legal parents (bio or adopted) have the right to determine who their child is in contact with. This is not shared custody.

      And quite frankly, this is exactly why. Brandon and Theresa kept the adoption open for 14 years despite all of the boundary-stomping and public insults. But, at some point, they get to decide that maintaining contact is not good for their child. Parents, and parents alone (aside from a judge) get to decide what is best for their children.


  27. he’s literally another farrah just rambling on and on so they can sound smart
    also SO MANY adoptees have been reaching out to tyler to ask him politely to stop speaking on their behalf’s and that the information he’s spreading is harmful but instead of just listening to them he blocks them, so tyler since we know you’re reading the comments because u have nothing else to do how is THAT advocating for adoptees who have been telling u to shut up about them? 🤔


  28. does this assh*le 🍑🕳️ have an off 📴 button? for real, he seems pathologically unable to STFU.


  29. Unnecessary? Listen up Tyler. Getting Carly away from you two and your families was the best thing that could’ve happened to her. It’s too bad for the other girls you two are too selfish to give them to decent families.


  30. In my country we don’t really have adoptions. Instead we have kids in foster care who have no real families and who can be sent to a new foster home or a group home filled with teen gangsters for no good reason at all(social services is a joke and there are new scandals every day). Kids deserves families, blood family or not. I wish we had adoptions here. Pregnant women have to get abortions if they can’t take care of a baby. I personally know girls who still suffer because they had to kill their babies instead of giving them life and a family.

    Also, does Tyler not remember him telling Cate that he would leave her if she kept the baby…?


  31. Didn’t he threaten Cait himself that he would leave her if she didn’t go through with the adoption? Did he forget he’s one of the people who “failed” his wife?

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