Vee Torres is getting The Wrath of Kail Lowry this weekend after Vee posted a video of her and her family (which includes Kail’s son Elliott) on vacation at Disney World.
Hours after Vee posted the video— which shows her, Elliott, and other family members at the Magic Kingdom— Kail posted a cryptic Instagram Story that was almost certainly aimed at Vee.
“Using my son for views on IG but having 0 relationship in real life is insane,” Kail wrote.
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Fans were quick to figure out that Kail was likely aiming her shade at Vee, due to statements Kail has made this year on podcasts regarding Vee and her relationship with Elliott. (As ‘Teen Mom’ fans know, Vee is married to Jo Rivera, who shares Elliott with Kail.)
During an appearance last month on Harry Jowsey’s Boyfriend Material podcast, Kail spoke about her fallout with Vee and claimed Elliott and Vee, “don’t really have a relationship either.” Kail also maintained that, at the time of her and Vee’s falling out in 2024, the two didn’t “actually co-parent at all” and that Vee didn’t “do anything for [Elliott].”
During the same podcast appearance, Kail took some swings at Jo as well.
She stated that “three out of four” of her baby daddies have a “good relationship” with their kids, but that “another dad is not really involved with his kid.” Fans quickly ascertained that she was speaking about Jo, as he is the only dad who has just one kid with Kail– besides Javi, who is very involved in his son Lincoln’s life.
In February, Kail claimed that Jo “doesn’t pay for anything” when it comes to Elliott.
“In full transparency, Jo pays for nothing…” Kail said during an episode of her Barely Famous podcast.”He literally never asks me if I need his [financial] contribution anywhere.”
In the comment section of Vee’s Disney World post, fans pointed out that Elliott looked very happy in the video. Some even responded to a comment Elliott left on Vee’s post and asked about Kail being upset.
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“Why is your mom being negative posting that you have no relationship with vee?” one person asked. “Anyways I’m glad that you’re on vacations and enjoying.”
“I think your mom feels different,” someone responded to Elliott’s “We love Disney” comment.
Vee has not yet responded to Kail’s Disney dig.
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So, using your son for views on IG, your podcast, FB, Tiktok etcetera isn’t insane because you DO have a relationship, Kail?
She acts like she doesn’t do the same damn thing as his mom. Look, Elliot is what? Two years away from being an adult now? If he didn’t have SOME sort of relationship with his dad and Vee, I am pretty damn sure he wouldn’t go with them on a vacation and you could count on Kail making sure of that, if it were the case. Kail is so goddamn dramatic and immature that I have secondhand embarrassment for her due to how jealous she is of Vee, but also how she tries to immediately “throw shade” over it all. Like, MOVE ON already. It’s been years. You are an adult- a mother. Stop bagging on your childs stepmom and his dad. Start being happy when your child wants to go on a vacation with his dad and stepmom… Plus, let me also say, it appears this was Vee’s BIG sister, not Elliotts little sister… which says even more in my eyes. I highly doubt Elliott would go on a trip for Vee’s sisters birthday, let alone be involved in making a video of them all together, if he wasn’t jovial about it. SMH. This bitch just does not get it.
The people in the comments don’t get joe doesn’t like the fact that his child is gay. They don’t have a relationship with him because of it. His son went on the vacation for the siblings. This is known around Delaware. That is the fall out.
It’s known around the entire state of Delaware?? Do you hear yourself? Your claim is that Elliot went to Disney World and looks totally fine and happy because he had to go for his little sister? That doesn’t make any sense. Neither Joe nor Elliot have ever said that Joe doesn’t like that he is gay. Stop listening to Petty Betty.
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Im sorry does Elliot not have free will?
He doesn’t have a relationship with them because he is gay and his dad won’t accept it.
That must explain why he is on vacation with them looking completely fine.
If Vee and Joe have no relationship with him then how is he on vacation with them?!
And if Elliot had went to on this vacation with his dad’s family and Vee was making posts and not including him, Kail would also have something to say. I don’t think there is ever winning when it comes to dealing with her
Kali is insufferable. Eliot is old enough that if he didn’t want to be on the trip he’d be home. He’s literally the age Kali was when she became a mom. I think if he didn’t have a relationship with Vee or didn’t want to be at Disney he wouldn’t be. Kali needs to stop causing unnecessary drama.
I though karl was going to shut up, go away and be mia for a bit.
Big shocker no one ever believes her. When you LIE about mundane things like getting offline for a bit, you’ll lie about anything.
I hope Elliot stays far away from his destructive mother who USES HIM for content as soon as he’s a legal adult! I can’t imagine violating my kids’ privacy like this! Kail is actively trying to create problems for him with his FATHER’S family! ALL her kids will be totally justified going NO CONTACT with her!!
Kail trying to start drama and ruin her kid’s vacation just because she’s jealous of Vee. 🙄
He’s not a toddler. If he didn’t want to be posted, he wouldn’t have participated in the video.
Again…she makes everything about her. Karl, were still waiting for you to go away a while like you promised.
Kail needs to grow up, seriously 🙄 If Elliot doesnt have a problem being in an innocent vacation video, then neither should you.
She can’t be happy for anyone or let them enjoy a single moment, not even her son.
Kail looks like a fool lol, instead of thinking “I’m glad my kid has such a village in his life” she immediately is negative and says unnecessary things. Like girl, you can think that but don’t say it. Keep it in cause you’ll just look like a small and insecure person. Not to mention Elliot is going to see it also, it’s so unfair to start drama while her kid is still on vacation. It really does seem like Kail is trying to put a dark cloud over their fun time, hopefully it doesn’t make Elliot feel guilty or anxious to be put into the middle of the argument by no fault of his own.
And then there’s Vee, her TT is all focused on makeup and beauty with some whimsy ones thrown in, not about drama in her life or talking bad about anyone. Which makes Kail look even more unhinged lol
Kail has always been insanely jealous of Vee
Heavy on the INSANELY jealous
What makes me most upset about this is Elliott I’m sure has seen his mom’s post so now he can stress the rest of his vacation about what he’s going to go home to. She really knows how to suck the life out of everything good around her
Some one is JEALOUS
Elliot is barely in the video. Not like Vee interviewed him about his “coming out” for her own $$$ benefit right?
Karl is just trying to make drama because that’s her dopamine. And Jo provides for his kid. Just not to the level Karl expects or wants. Boohoo.
Kail was always jealous of Vee ever since Jo’s rapping days and Vee was in his video. Kail called her a “hood rat” if I recall. Kail is a bit like Kayla from Young & Pregnant. Just because you sleep with P.O.C. doesn’t make you not a racist. Kail’s interviewing her, estranged, dying father was another low point for Kail. She is just like Smirnoff Suzie but without the alcohol.
Here’s the thing, though. Even if he were there just for his sister, he seems like he’s having a good time. I think it’s possible that Vee is not trying to over step boundaries by doing more than she feels comfortable with, especially if she had a falling out with Kail. But IF he had no with her, does anyone really think he would participate in this video? AAND if for whatever reason, Vee decided not to post him on this trip, Kail would 1000% still have something stupid to say about him going on this trip and not posting her son. Vee is damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t, either way! Regardless, Vee has class and Kail doesn’t! That’s Kail’s biggest problem.
Well, Elliot looks happy and comfortable with Vee. Kail is such a child.
My daughter has a relative who has stepped away from her more and more lately. I definitly do NOT point this out online or to my daughter. If she has not yet noticed that the relative is being distant, then I dont want to make my daughter think about it. And when she does notice she will draw her own conclutions about this person. And all I can and should do is comfort my daughter and let her know that it’s the relative’s loss.
Petty Betty.
I would also say, I’m sure without a doubt, that any issues that Elliot has with Vee and Jo was almost certainly hand fed to him his entire child hood, by kail herself.
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He looked perfectly happy to be making this video with her. The audacity of kail to decide who should post what, after the things she never stops doing and saying about others.
Doesn’t Kail have 6 other kids to look after and worry about? I guess these petty Betty comments keep people tuning into her podcasts?
Next week she’ll be throwing shade at Lauren. To Isiah’s next woman – have fun dealing with Kail!
I’m not sure if Kail’s “Bitter Betty” shtick is better or worse than the crazy people asking Elliot about Kail’s comment. Jesus God Leah, let the kid enjoy being on vacation!
the utterly insufferable kail 🥬 is out here ‘kailing’ again (as if she ever stopped 🙄).
to copy my query from last week: didn’t kail 🥬 say something in the past week or two about going away for a while? why doesn’t she go ahead and…follow through on that?
Umm, Kail…When someone takes your child to Disneyland, they definitely have a relationship. Is slamming your children’s stepmothers your clever new way of no longer talking about your baby daddies? If so, we see right through you.
Kail engaging in parental alienation??? I’m shocked! Kail lashing out publicly about a post where Elliot looks totally fine and happy is beyond f*cked up. He’s not a small child. Teenagers have no problem having an attitude if they’re not having a good time. And she knows he will see her post.
She’s tried to sabotage Vee and Elliot’s relationship from day one and it’s just pathetic at this point. Hope Elliot had a great trip to Disney despite Kail’s attempt to get in his head.