
Kail Lowry is standing by her previous claims that her 16-year-old son Elliott has no relationship with his stepmom Vee Torres, despite a recent video posted by Vee showing them having fun together on vacation.
While on TikTok Live on Tuesday, the former ‘Teen Mom 2’ star was asked about her previous comments about Elliott and Vee– only to double-down and explain that Vee was just using Elliott for views. She also implied that Vee often ignores Elliott when he’s at their home.
As The Ashley told you last month, shortly after Vee posted a video of her and her family (which includes stepson Elliott) on vacation at Disney World, Kail took to social media with a cryptic message seemingly aimed at her former friend and podcast co-host.
“Using my son for views on IG but having 0 relationship in real life is insane,” Kail posted to her Instagram Story.
While on TikTok Live on Tuesday, a fan asked how “she” (presumably Vee) doesn’t have a relationship with Elliott when she’s been around him his whole life. (As fans of ‘Teen Mom 2’ know, Vee began dating Elliott’s father, Jo Rivera, when Elliott was a young child. Vee and Jo went on to get married and welcome a daughter together.)
Kail insisted that Vee doesn’t pay attention to Elliott when they’re at home and not on-camera.
“You can be around somebody and live in the same house and walk past them every day and not talk to them,” Kail said. “Like, that’s a thing. You can be happy on vacation in front of people and then not have a conversation for five days in a house, right?”
When pressed for receipts to back up her claims, (which she recently hinted she does have), Kail appeared to get somewhat defensive, though she assured fans that she was telling the truth.
“I’m not dropping receipts of anything. I just, I have them,” she claimed. “I’m not dropping s**t.”

Kail also vehemently denied that she was “bread-crumbing” with her comments about Vee’s allegedly non-existent relationship with Elliott, insisting that she “said what [she] said.” When someone in the comments informed the mom of seven that her remarks were coming off as “very bitter,” Kail suggested that she didn’t care, especially if her statements may actually be beneficial to Vee and Elliott’s relationship.
“ … if that gives somebody the opportunity to self-reflect and better the relationship, then it was worth it,” she stated.

Kail alleged on a June episode of Harry Jowsey’s Boyfriend Material podcast that Vee and Elliott “don’t really have a relationship,” while maintaining that, at the time of her and Vee’s fallout in 2024, the two didn’t “actually co-parent at all” and that Vee didn’t “do anything” for Elliott.
During that same podcast interview, Kail seemed to be referencing Jo when she claimed that “three out of four” of her baby daddies have a “good relationship” with their kids, but that “another dad is not really involved with his kid.” (Jo is the only dad who has just one kid with Kail– besides Javi Marroquin, who is very involved in their Lincoln’s life– so her comment indicates that Jo is the baby daddy who is “not really involved” in his child’s life.)
She has also claimed that Jo “doesn’t pay for anything” when it comes to expenses for Elliott.
Jo and Vee have not responded to any of the claims made about them by Kail.
Watch a clip from Kail’s Live below.
(Photos: Instagram; TikTok; MTV)


6 Responses
Kail is so nasty. Vee shouldn’t even offer a response.
Does she ever just stop talking? I wish Vee and Joe would take some sort of legal action so that Kail can no longer even utter their names publicly
This whore is so jealous of Vee because Vee is beautiful, intelligent, and so well-liked by everyone who knows her, unlike Kail constantly being referred to as a big, fat ugly cow whose hole has been used so much you could drive a Volkswagen bus up in it.
I don’t understand. Boy looks GENUINELY HAPPY on that vid! And Jo has been with Vee for ages (while Kail jumped from man to man and getting knocked up) so even if they don’t talk personal things (I’m sure he speaks to Jo about that), I am sure they still enjoy each others’ company, she’s just like a step mom basically! Plus Vivi is his sis! So I feel like cuz seemingly the other 3 baby daddies aren’t acting as complete a-holes now, she had to attack Jo and Vee now. Don’t you have a new boyfriend to worry about? Why are you still talking about your ex and his wife??
And I’m sure Joe and Vee understand how despicable Kail is and give that poor boy some grace
JEALOUS.
Also getting more and more desperate for clicks since we know she mind putting embarrassing stuff about herself out there as long as it helps her engagement. Sorry Kail, you’re drying up try not to be so obvious about it.