‘The Challenge’ Executive Producer Julie Pizzi Talks About “Heartwrenching” Show Spoilers & Whether Evan Starkman & Kenny Santucci Will Ever Return to Show

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Julie Pizzi— a longtime Executive Producer for MTV’s The Challenge— appeared on the Reality Life with Kate Casey podcast on Friday to talk about the upcoming “Double Agents” season…and reveal how the show’s producers really feel about all of the spoiler accounts popping up on social media lately.

During the interview, Julie also touched on Mark Long‘s in-the-work “OG” season…and even discussed the possibility of having Evan Starkman and Kenny Santucci return for the “OG” season, despite them being banned years ago for acts they committed against a female co-star.

Here, The Ashley breaks down the most-interesting parts of Julie’s interview.

On how the show’s producers are planning to combat spoiler accounts: 

“If you spoiler people ruin this cushy job for me, I’ll come after you. I swear.”

Julie talked about how upset she and the others behind ‘The Challenge’ get when they see spoilers surface for the upcoming season before the season airs. 

“This year the speed in which spoilers started coming out, although not all accurate, was sort of heart-wrenching,” she said. “We didn’t realize that somebody on the cast or crew is violating their confidentiality [agreement]. The real threat is, if we can’t control this, does the show go off the air? It’s like these superfans are doing this at the jeopardy of the show.”

Julie says that producers are “lenient” with what they allow their cast members to do outside of the show. 

“We want them to be successful but not at the expense of the series we’re inviting them to and paying them for and asking them to basically let us do our job to get the show on the air,” she said. “There is a big time period from when we finish shooting and when we air.”

She stated that MTV and the show’s producers are now trying to actively reduce the amount of spoilers by figuring out who is leaking information.

“We, with MTV, have taken a very different approach now, going into this next season, where we’re bringing in sort of an Internet sleuth who will be able to identify who those people are for us,” she said. “There’s a real expense to it, but I think at this point we can’t risk…there’s just not enough trust. It’s really, really unfortunate.”

On the testing ‘Challenge’ contestants must undergo:

Waiting on those STD test results like…

“They have a physical to make sure that they are physically able to do it,” Julie said. “They do a psych evaluation. We basically do all of that testing just to make sure they’re in good health before going in.”

For the upcoming “Double Agents” season, contestants also had to undergo extensive COVID-19 testing, since they filmed during the pandemic. 

“This year…We did so much testing,” she said. “They were really great sports. We really created a bubble but they were being tested multiple times a week. The whole crew was [too].”

On Mark Long’s “OG” season:

“I will bring the people what they want: no more random reality D-listers!”

As The Ashley previously reported, longtime ‘Challenge’ contestant Mark is in the process of putting together a season featuring old-school contestants from the show. Julie gave a status update on where they are in the process of getting that going. As of press time, the “OG” season has not been sold to a network. 

“It hasn’t been commissioned, but it’s sort of bringing back these legends, who have really performed over time and been amazing, back to the franchise,” she said.

On whether Evan & Kenny could take part in that season:

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“They’ll be begging us to come back…any day now…yep…”

Evan and Kenny were frequent contestants on ‘The Challenge’ until around 2011, when contestant Tonya Cooley filed a lawsuit against them, as well as MTV and Bunim-Murray Productions. In the lawsuit, Tonya stated that, while filming “The Ruins” season in 2009, the guys took off her bikini top and squirted lotion on her, before taking another male participant’s toothbrush and rubbing the toothbrush around and inside her genitals, all while she was passed out and unaware of what was going on.

The lawsuit was reportedly settled out of court, and everyone was sworn to secrecy on the terms of the settlement. Evan and Kenny were reportedly banned from the show and have not appeared since. 

Julie— who may or may not have been aware of Evan and Kenny’s history— said that there is a chance that they could be asked to appear on the “OG” season.

“I’m sure [there’s a chance],” she said. “You know, we haven’t even outreached for this new project that we’re working on because, again, we haven’t sold it. We’re just working with MTV on development right now and kind of figuring out it’s something that can be rolled out. But I do think if we do something like that, where it’s a little bit throwback or nostalgic, we would bring back lots of people.

“The franchise is doing better than ever, and I Do think we’re really trying to grow a bigger, better audience. I think we’re really trying to pull from new worlds. I ultimately think we’re going to continue to bring fresh faces, and also continue to bring back the fan favorites.”

Listen to Julie’s full interview with the Reality Life podcast below! 

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14 Comments

  1. [* Shield plugin marked this comment as “Trash”. Reason: Failed Bot Test (expired) *]
    Evan and Kenny should have received jail time, and never ever be allowed to return. They should also have to register yearly as sexual offenders. Why did the show know about it, but didn’t didn’t stop it before it went that far? I’ve watched MTV reality shows since the first ones. I’m just appalled that this went unpunished to the full extent of the law…


  2. Don’t these two have some T-Shirt company, I know at least Evan is now married (and has children), did the company lose its business after people heard what they did?! I’m sorry but if you bring these scumbags (btw, I knew ALL THE TIME Wes is the better person in this feud, Kenny was and will always be a creepy guy obsessed with his looks too much), your ratings will plummet.


  3. Ummmm…Kenny and Evan BETTER NOT be asked to come back…Sexual assault is unforgivable. If they got rid of other cast members from other shows for dog murder and racial slurs, they better not even begin to entertain bringing back 2 let alone 1 rapist.


  4. I loved when Veronica was on.

    Those two should have been arrested for rape! They should never make an appearance on TV ever again.


  5. Wait.. Did you refer to sexual assault as, “stunts they pulled”? Yikes. I would edit that because as an avid reader for YEARS I do not believe that is an accurate reflection of you and The Ashley as a whole, and if it is, it would be very disappointing.
    As a survivor and professional who works directly with rape and sexual assault victims, I believe it is diminishing and degrading.


    1. I take it your advice was taken because I can’t find that comment. I sure hope so and it’s not that I’m just missing it.


      1. They changed it and I appreciate it. I think it was unintentional, I’ve never seen The Ashley write anything of the like. People make mistakes, glad she took the time to rephrase it!


    2. I see it has been rephrased as, “acts they committed against a female co-star.”

      I agree that this was an edit that needed to be made, as the allegations against them were definitely not “stunts” or pranks. This was a very poor choice of words and I’m glad The Ashley saw the need to make a change.


  6. I REALLY hope she’s just clueless and doesn’t know about what those 2 did to Tonya. If she does know and said that…….Are you kidding me??! WTF is wrong with you?!


  7. Bring back the gang rapists? Seriously? People have been “canceled” for so much less but in the end no one gives a fuck about rape victims. Fuck MTV right up the ass.


  8. I would hardly call spoilers “heart wrenching”
    Get a grip lady, it’s a tv show. Also, why would they even entertain the mere thought of bringing back those two pos? Scum.

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