Catelynn Lowell and Tyler Baltierra posted a lengthy statement to social media on Thursday in at attempt to provide some context about a “gift” from their biological daughter Carly, which viewers will see them receive on Thursday’s season finale of Teen Mom: The Next Chapter.
Catelynn and Tyler have been at odds with Carly’s parents, Brandon and Teresa Davis, for over a year, with Brandon and Teresa ultimately deciding last year to cut off contact with the MTV stars.
In their statement, Cate and Ty told viewers what was going on behind the scenes of the segments set to air on Thursday. They stated that Carly’s parents sent them a “gift” from Carly— a clip of her singing— but Cate and Ty say Brandon and Teresa would only give the clip to them if it was aired on the show. This stipulation caused the ‘Teen Mom’ stars to be “confused” and feel “manipulated,” among other things.
On a recent episode of ‘Teen Mom: The Next Chapter,’ viewers saw Cate and Tyler reach out to Dr. Drew Pinsky for advice on the situation, to which Dr. Drew offered to contact Brandon and Teresa himself to hear their side of the story. In a preview from this week’s season finale, Dr. Drew tells Cate and Tyler that he was able to speak to Carly’s parents, who informed him that Carly is “thriving” and “doing all these wonderful things.”
In response, Cate tells Dr. Drew that she feels bad to hear those things, somewhat, because Brandon and Teresa are “keeping that beautiful girl for me.”
“I don’t think that’s the intent,” Dr. Drew replies, to which Cate says that’s “how it feels.”
As Catelynn begins to get emotional, Tyler acknowledges that he and Cate can never say they’re not grateful for Brandon and Teresa, but that doesn’t change the fact that he also wishes Carly’s parents “would have been more upfront and honest” about what they wanted out of this adoption before they “took the baby.”
As for Tyler and Cate being blocked from contacting Brandon and Teresa, Dr. Drew insists that Brandon and Teresa may be willing to open that door again. He also tells Catelynn and Tyler that they are still “encouraged to send gifts” to Carly,” but only when gifts are “completely appropriate.” (As The Ashley previously reported, Catelynn stated earlier this year that she was told by Teresa to stop sending Carly gifts because Teresa felt it was “uncalled for” and “inappropriate.”)
While Catelynn and Tyler say they appreciate this information, they find it “weird” that they had to hear it from Dr. Drew and not “the two people we made an agreement with.” Dr. Drew explains to the couple that currently, Carly’s parents feel that a “reset” is needed for all parties in order to “let all the negativity kind of settle.”
“As part of this reset, they shared something very important to me, something rather moving and remarkable from your daughter,” Dr. Drew tells Cate and Tyler. “She sings in church, she’s quite an accomplished singer and they recorded a song of hers … .”
In response to another preview from the finale, in which Tyler claims that the “intention” of the recorded song “feels manipulative.”
Tyler and Catelynn posted a joint statement to social media on Thursday thanking Brandon and Teresa for taking the time to record the song, which they called “a beautiful gift and so meaningful,”; however, they also informed Carly’s parents that they requested to listen to Carly’s song privately before doing so on-camera, in order to “process the inevitably intense feelings that come from it.”
The pair went on to explain that this “gift” also creates a lot of confusion, as they’ve been asked by Carly’s parents to not speak about their adoption story publicly, but then Carly’s parents gave them a “very personal song” that they demanded be played on TV.
“It’s confusing because you don’t want us to have the song ourselves (even though that’s what Carly wants), but yet you want the whole world to have it & are using TV to do so … ,” they wrote. “So I hope you understand how that can make us feel stuck, confused, controlled & manipulated, regardless if that was your intent or not.”
Tyler and Cate went on to apologize to Carly’s parents if their decision to speak their truth as birthparents has hurt them or Carly, insisting that was “never our intention.” They also stated that while they “will always speak about adoption,” but will refrain from speaking about their own adoption journey moving forward, noting that “this reconciliation effort” isn’t for themselves or Brandon and Teresa, but for Carly and “what she needs and wants.”
“ … We cannot allow any of our own personal pain & insecurities to get in the way of that,” they wrote. “We’re adults here & it’s our job to put everything aside for the best interest of Carly. Which requires open, honest & transparent communication. So we hope moving forward, you will participate in that requirement.”
Along with their lengthy statement to Brandon and Teresa, Tyler and Catelynn told fans in the caption of their post that receiving Carly’s song was something that was “thrown onto us out of nowhere with MTV’s set up.”
The couple also claimed that it was MTV’s idea for them to reach out to Dr. Drew, as their producers were the only people Carly’s parents were willing to speak to.
“Their original plan was to have MTV film them & their family, as long as MTV didn’t have them talk about the adoption while filming. (Which MTV didn’t think made sense, so they compromised behind the scenes with the song idea),” the couple claimed.
Cate and Tyler went on to say that they wanted to listen to Carly’s song privately before doing so on-camera, they were informed that, “the only way to hear the gift is if we listened to it on camera & that we weren’t actually allowed to have it personally.”
“ … It was truly heartbreaking to have something so special just dangled in front of us, to then have it ripped away like that,” they wrote. “Navigating an open adoption as a birthparent is so difficult, especially with such a constant power dynamic… Birthparents are always at the mercy of the adopters (which is understandable, since we’re the ones who relinquished our baby to them) but that still doesn’t make it any less hard or painful.”
The caption concluded with the couple vowing to no longer speak about their biological daughter or her parents publicly.
“ … That’s why we’re actually relieved that this episode is airing, so that way we can all just finally move forward,” they added.
The season finale of ‘Teen Mom: The Next Chapter’ airs Thursday on MTV.
Watch a clip of Cate and Tyler’s conversation with Dr. Drew’s below.
(Photos: MTV; Instagram; YouTube)
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THAT WAS A TOTAL B*TCH MOVE BY BRANDON AND TERESA…………THEY WERE SENDING AN UNDERLYING MESSAGE TO K & T………..2 CAN PLAY AT THIS GAME.
Yeah that is a total bitch. You cannot keep a child from seeing there biological parents if they choose to. Teresa and Brandon were quick to adopt. They need to be thankful to Tyler and Cate that they gave up there daughter to them knowing that she would be in good hands. So yeah they should be more then thankful especially since they cannot have or birth there own kids. They should ask themselves what would god want? Would he be happy about them acting like that?
These two clowns publicly posted their letter to Brandon and Theresa accusing them of manipulation and control while simultaneously claiming that they will no longer discuss the adoption or Carly again.
And this is probably why Brandon and Theresa didn’t feel like they could actually communicate directly or let them have a clip of Carly that they would absolutely try to profit off of. Cate and Tyler are so desperate to control the narrative and play the victim (while making money), which has been easy since Brandon and Theresa refuse to engage in this one-sided public battle.
And we all know that Dr. Drew and MTV love spinning up drama, so I bet this whole “they wanted to give you a gift!” nonsense came from them.
This letter is not an attempt to actually reset the conversation. Seems like it would have been better to simply thank them and then ask why they preferred to go through MTV. But, that would require some humility and discretion from Cate and Tyler.
I truly hope they can actually move forward, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
If what the latest allegation alleged is true, wow, just wow.
The song is already out there as B&T’s church posted it on social media.
Someone commented on the post with the picture of Carly and Teresa with the link.
I don’t get how B&T are ok with their church posting videos of carly but not letting C&T a single picture unless it’s of Carly’s back.
Maybe the church wants it on air so people join them and manipulated B&T and Carly to make C&T play it on teen mom
A church posting Carly doing church activities like singing is nowhere near on the same level as Tyler and Catelynn posting her face with their crazy captions to their millions of followers. Brandon and Teresa have every right to pick and choose who posts what about their child. They’re not hiding her away in a tower, they just don’t want her constantly associated with these two and their antics while they’re out there acting like B and T kidnapped Carly.
Then maybe they shouldn’t have adopted a child from a reality TV show. Maybe they should have had a closed adoption. Don’t come at me, im just looking at things from a different perspective
I agree 💯. They knew these kids was on tv, they were there when cate gave birth and the camera’s was there too. This was about them wanting to use their millions of followers and MTV to maybe boost something for them, why else do it like that. They say they don’t want all the cameras and ppl in their lives but then want the song to “Only” be shared if it’s on camera, make it make sense.
They adopted a child on a documentary. There was no show and no talk of a show at the time, let alone 16 years of a show.
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I agree 150! This was all done on the show. However none of them knew the popularity this show would generate. So therefore it’s no one’s fault except Brandon and Theresa trying to be all private at this stage when Carly’s 16 is insane. Why wait until now? I honestly believe tvaf
It’s not confusing: Carly wanted them to hear it never said to have it. In that moment all Cait talked about was herself and her own needs. Wouldn’t even let Dr. Drew finish a sentence about Carly without interrupting with the word ME”. Wouldn’t do what Dr Drew said Carly wanted because of her mental health, just like they had to reschedule the visit they needed because of when their vacation was and be late to it to finish the scrapbook.
If they gave the audio to them they would be able to with it what they wanted. And since they are willing to do just about anything for money (only fans and tax trouble) that’s reasonable. It’s about them using rights to the music. Sharing praise and one’s beliefs is not the same as being associated with a massive platform associated with crimes. Carly is allowed to participate in her religion without giving someone else full license to use image as they see fit. Same as a parent using photos on their profile doesn’t mean a teacher can share the kids face online. Stop pretending to be confused.
You can tell how much about them this is by their language. It isn’t even Carly’s adoption to them “OUR adoption”. You weren’t adopted.
I’m wondering if Carley wanted to see their reaction. She may never have been able to give them something until now. And by seeing the reaction it might be like being able to give it in person. Maybe not. Just my two cents.
Is no one else wondering why B and T would not allow them to watch it privately? Like what was the end game with that move? Don’t get me wrong, I think cate and Ty have burned so many bridges with them. I feel sympathy for them but I do not think they handled this well.
But it feels like a weird move from Brandon and Teresa to me?
Also, then who leaked the video of her singing if it wasn’t care and ty?
I have a feeling it was never intended for them at all, but that Brandon and Theresa were afraid it would get leaked out there (or that it already was somewhere) and they wanted to get ahead of it. It does seem odd they would say they can’t watch it privately if it were indeed a “gift” for them, which makes me believe it was never intended to be one and Brandon and Theresa wanted to make that clear without being assholes about it. “You can listen to it as long as you do it on camera, because it *isn’t* just for you” seems a more reasonable approach to the fact that the clip will be out there in the public eye. Brandon and Theresa have never been rude, mean, spiteful, etc.., even though C&T are complete assholes about everything, so it seems highly unlikely they’d start acting that way now. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit of Drew/MTV made up the “it’s a gift for you” crap, it wouldn’t be the first time they pulled a stupid stunt, lol.
Since Brandon and Theresa didn’t talk directly with C&T, this seems a more plausible explanation.
Right, like the whole thing seems so bizarre to me. You’re right. I bet mtv and/or dr drew spun it into something it wasn’t, and cate and ty were on the receiving end of that. They had to of known care and ty would see it eventually, especially if it had already been leaked.
This is what I think as well!
I think Brandon and Theresa don’t trust them to represent what they say or do. I think they feel that due to their anger and resentment Catelynn and Tyler would always look for the most unfavorable reason for their choices. I think they wanted to be sure their were witnesses so that the song couldn’t turn into something it wasn’t.
What was the name of the song? Maybe B & T pick it for Carly to send a specific message to T & C?
I think the adopti e parents are AHs
If this is true, I’d imagine they knew if it was sent privately, that Catelynn and Tyler would share it all over their social media for attention and money, but if they requested it be aired on MTV, that tied Cate and Ty’s hands because they couldn’t share it personally and profit from it directly. So Brandon and Teresa knew it would go public either way and decided to do it on their own terms rather than Catelynn and Tyler’s and that’s why Cate and Ty are upset.
That’s a very good point.
I think you are right about this. Brandon and Teresa are probably tired of Cate and Tyler making this all on them.
My gosh they were just children! Look back at the pictures of when Carly was very small. Cate and Ty were babies too! No hate for B&T whatsoever on my part, none. But I do feel for C&T. I have a son who is 14 and I couldn’t imagine him giving up a baby. And the pain he would feel so maybe years later. I don’t condone any hatred toward B&T, I done believe they did anything wrong and they seem like good people who Carly is very blessed to have. But I couldn’t imagine the pain C&T must feel and as mentally unwell individuals, they truly are acting just as expected. They don’t have the mental or emotional maturity to process their pain in a healthy manner.
* so many years later.
* I don’t believe they ..
Which is why the two of them need to be in therapy to deal with this “pain” in an adult manner. And the therapy can be them as a couple or separately. It should be not taped for MTV…it should be private. They clearly have alot of issues regarding guilt and their own personal trauma dealing with giving her up. Yes…they were children when they agreed to the adoption…and they did the right thing. They were too young and immature to take care of her. And let’s talk about the family issues…Tyler’s father and sister with chronic drug issues, Cate’s mother with alcohol, Cate had a pot addiction for heaven’s sake as well as mental health issues that put her in a mental health facilty. I think B&T have been keeping up with the “open” adoption but it seems like C&T are never satisfied. They don’t take into account that B&T have another child and full family life. Carly is an active and healthy teenager…let her have her life and when she turns 18 in a couple of years she will be making her own decisions about what kind of relationship she wants with her birth parents.
What I saw last night was Cate unable to recognize or admit wrong doing in going on social media to bash B&T at every opportunity. It’s all about HER feelings and HER anger, hurt, etc…I get that this generation uses social media as a way of lashing out without taking a moment to do some critical thinking if this is a wise thing to do, but for Cate to continue to do so even when they’ve been told how this is hurting Carly is just selfish and immature. Cate is not a teenager…grow up and own your mistakes and stop blabbering family business on your social media accounts. B&T did the right thing by cutting them off. They have to protect Carly from unwarranted attention to her personal information, etc… C&T seem to be pushing themselves into Carly’s life with gifts that are just randomly sent to her. Instead of having some self realization about their obsessive gift giving and cards and how B&T might be a little upset about “boundaries” that C&T seem to ignore, Cate seems to feel that she should be calling the shots on this “open” adoption and should be permitted to disregard the agreed to adoption agreement. B&T are alot nicer than I would have been…I would have gotten a cease and desist order.
Finally…Cate needs to do some self care. She needs to lose weight…she is morbidly obese and is shortening her life with this unhealthy lifestyle and food choices. Instead of spending money on another tatoo, go to a weight loss physician, get on Wegovy or Zepbound, start a diet with a nutritionist… start a workout routine or just start walking in that nice neighborhood you live in. And Tyler…stop with the Only Fans photos. I’m sure Carly has heard about these or even seen them…do you know how embarassing this is for a teen girl?? Maybe you should try getting a normal job. That would make all your kids proud. Also…quit talking about Carly and B&T to Nova. She’s a child that shouldn’t be involved in this drama.
Wish I could upvote this x100. Great, well thought out comment.
I hope they can process their lingering anger, sadness and get to point they put their kids currently with them, and Carly first ahead of their own emotions.
Exactly, you didn’t give up your son. They did. They are the most annoying people from this TV show. Most of the other girls have moved on and made something of their lives. They are going to be riding this gravy train into their death
First, Tyler basically accused them of lying or at least misrepresenting their intentions during the adoption. I would like him to turn that nitpicking brain of his and ask him and Cate this question: Have we consistently lived up to all of the commitments we made or has life like illness, work and family commitments made their ability to fulfill those obligations imperfect? I know the answer to this because they have shared on camera they were not consistent. Cate and Tyler are angry and hurt, but it is easier to villainize Brandon and Theresa, which may have not be perfect either and not take their feelings out on the people who their anger is more justified, their parents for the chaos they grew up in and Dawn who I think didn’t provide them full guidance and gave them an unrealistic idea of what this would be like. Also, please for the love of God stop saying they weren’t being honest about wanting an open adoption. This was a first adoption experience for them and they were likely doing their best to navigate an emotional situation.
Out of all the comments here….THIS is the one that absolutely makes the most sense. It just says it all. THIS comment shows EXACTLY who C&T really are in the end.
They really just can’t help themselves can they? Do they not see that their own demand for the world to side with them against the adoptive parents they chose is becoming a detriment to any relationship with Carly in the future?
They claim to be fighting for Carly to see their love regardless of the harm it may cause her. They act like they just want to validate Carly’s feelings when they really want to preserve their own. Maybe Carly is the one that wanted the song played on TV for whatever reason. Instead of opening themselves up to that possibility they immediately went on the defensive and said they felt manipulated.
If Carly was the one that made that request then imagine how she feels now. She probably thoughtfully took her time to record a song she thought might touch them emotionally and instead they stamp their feet because it wasn’t given to them the way they thought it should be.
I am really starting to dislike these two and their victim mentality. I know they made a difficult decision at an extremely young age and understand they had ideas of how an open adoption would play out. I know they are heartbroken but what I can’t figure out is how they think their constant smearing of Carly’s adoptive parents is in her best interest. It’s almost as if they want Carly to want to move back with them and their kids and live happily ever after. No matter what their issues are, the reality is Carly had a much more stable life because of the adoption. She has to be mortified and hurt for being caught in the middle. She’s at an age where life is difficult, and these two constantly publicly disparaging the parents who raised her is not at all her best interest.
If you love something let it go. If it’s meant to be it will find its way back to you.
They seem like a hot mess these days and Carly likely had a much more stable life which was their ultimate goal.
I would like to see them all get along. I would watch a show about both families coming together. If Carly sings, why not see if her sisters have talent as well? They could start a new hit show!
I don’t think she actually said ‘keeping her FOR me’ I heard ‘keeping her FROM me’ which makes more sense. So did they listen to the song or not? I don’t watch the show. Was this before or after the clips of her singing were released on tiktok?
Someone figured out she sings in church! Wasn’t this episode recorded 6 months ago? Was it leaked?
I’m guessing B&T probably wanted Dr. Drew to air all this on the show so C&T didn’t have control of the narrative.
So many of you know nothing about open adoption and it shows. Brandon and Theresa reneged. They didn’t live up to their promises. If you are a parent, you know that you would do anything for your child. Cate and Tyler made the ultimate sacrifice so their daughter could have a better life. They loved her so much so they were willing to go through the overwhelming heartbreak of an OPEN adoption, for HER benefit. That’s doesn’t mean they ever stop loving her or thinking about her.
We have a family member who was adopted through open adoption. Her birth mother is given regular updates and can call at any time. She is able to set up visits. We are eternally grateful to the birth mother and the incredible gift we were given. This child has always had a photo of her birth mother in her room from the time she was brought home and we all have deep respect and gratitude for her sacrifice. Do we always agree with everything she does? Of course not, we are all human. But underneath it all, we never forget her sacrifice. I truly can’t understand the attitude of Carly’s adoptive parents. They’re allowed to disagree with Cate and Tyler, but they also have an obligation to attempt to work it out. It is just reprehensible that they cut off contact without any mediation or counseling. It is damaging to Carly as well as Cate and Tyler. Parents go through open adoption with the promise of having some sort of agreed-on contact with the child. Brandon and Theresa broke that contract. Cate and Tyler deserve empathy. They are grieving.
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Brandon and Theresa went out of their way to follow the contract, even allowing and encouraging MORE contact than originally agreed upon (it was for the first five years, ONLY, and C&T agreed to this, it’s literally in their contract). They have met all of their obligations and then some, including trying to reason with C&T when they weren’t being remotely reasonable, continuing to encourage communication until it became detrimental to Carly’s wellbeing and trying to have conversations with different mediators in an attempt to rectify problems that C&T were causing. It is C&T who “reneged” and have chosen to make a complete mockery of the entire process of adoption and all it entails, including the effects on Carly herself out of pure selfishness.
I have children who have regular contact with their birth family as well, and it’s a beautiful thing when it can work out. I also have children who have no contact, and I know that this is the best thing for them (because THEY are who matters most) as contact just didn’t/won’t work out. In either case, I am eternally grateful for the opportunity to be a mom to these amazing kids, so appreciative of the birth parents for their personal sacrifice and I know the toll it can take on them (I don’t take that for granted). But, I still know there are limits and boundaries that need to be put in place sometimes.
I have also had children who had birth family that behave a lot like C&T, it’s absolutely detrimental to the child’s wellbeing to behave in the way that they do. By acting like this, they are denigrating the sanctity and beauty that is adoption. It truly is a sacrifice of epic proportion to be able to recognize that you cannot give the child you chose to bring into this world a good life. It’s a powerful and beautiful thing and deserves all the respect in the world-which Brandon and Theresa have done, while C&T have chosen not to. Did you ever wonder why the birth mother of Brandon and Theresa’s son still has regular contact with them? It’s because she doesn’t act like C&T, at all. Treating it the way these two have been, and still are, treating the people who gave a child you couldn’t care for the life they deserve the way these two have, takes something away from the respect it is owed. No one has ever said they should stop loving her, thinking about her, caring about her or anything like that. But, you see, it’s not HER they are concerned about, it’s their own selves-and that is selfish as can be. They’ve been told, repeatedly, their actions, inactions and general behavior is causing harm to Carly-and they refused to stop. They have taken a normally very selfless act-putting a child up for adoption-and turned it into a selfish one by acting the way they have for YEARS. They have only gotten worse over time.
Well said Annie, I completely agree. So many posters can’t seem to see beyond their hate for C&T that they can’t be rational about this. I have felt weird about B&T since Brandon told C&T that they worry Carly will want a relationship with C&T when she’s older. To me, that shows they never intended to keep the adoption open. If they did stick to the agreement, Carly would have some kind of relationship with C&T when she becomes of age and can make decisions for herself. It also kinda seems like they want her to choose and don’t want her to have a relationship with both sets of parents. Carly should NEVER feel like she has to choose. B&T are not grateful for the gift of being parents and that’s sad.
Absolutely agree 100%! Also, Brandon and Teresa r keeping Carly from her biological sisters. They all deserve 2 have that relationship.
Amen! My daughter is adopted and we have an open adoption agreement. She has had contact with her birth mother from the beginning. My husband and I will be forever grateful for the sacrifice she gave for us. There’s no way I could keep my daughter away from her and just cut her off for petty stuff. They all need to grow up and act like adults. Carly does have feelings of her own.
But, they did try to work it out. Look at articles on this site from 7-8 YEARS ago. Tyler was doing this whole “you can’t tell us not to post pictures of her! Everyone has a breaking point, and the repeated stomping on boundaries and public airing of every grievance or perceived slight eventually became insurmountable. If you keeping pushing someone and then cry that they eventually stopped communicating, you lack accountability.
I love how you act like you “know” all about open adoption based on pure anecdote. Open adoption is a term that indicates only that the adoptee knows who their birth parents are and that the birth parents know who adopted their child. Period. That’s ALL it means. What the parties do beyond that for updates, visits, pictures, etc. changes with each adoption and based on circumstances. Adoptive parents have the sole legal right to stop communication if they ever feel it is not good for their child.
Actions always prove the facts your voice may try to create. Based only on their actions over the last three years, I would never allow either Cate or Tyler anywhere near my child.
Remember Dawn telling them to send a card or presents for Christmas and Birthday because they hadn’t been sending them? And then they went into over kill when they stopped communicating with them.
Why do you feel that way? Based on what actions?
Maybe are selfish, self centered fools who aren’t able to let go past in order for their children, and I don’t just mean Carly, to thrive. Their desire for Carly revolve around their desires, not Carly’s.
They are grown, they need to deal with the consequences of their behavior, and stop blaming this couple who have given Carly a stable childhood. Maybe they could try getting real jobs, Tyler could learn a trade instead of shaking his booty. It’s not like he works a couple towns over at a club and no one knows. He is famous and on only fans.
Maybe they could focus on gifts they have and stop victimizing themselves over a situation they caused by trying to override Carly’s legal guardians, that they agreed to. Maybe put Carly’s stability in front of their own desires. Maybe get some therapy and start taking some accountability.
Exactly. It must be so humiliating to Carly for all her friends AND all her enemies to know all about her trashy bio family.
So NOW Cate and Tyler wanted privacy when it comes to Carly but have spent how much time whining and crying on social media, the show and their podcast not caring about what they were doing to exploit Carly?
I’ll believe it when I see it that they will no longer speak about Carly publicly. C&T love to play the victims and will ultimately do what they need to drive a storyline or their podcast.
so, the gruesome twosome 👫🏼🤡 ‘won’t be mentioning’ the davis family anymore. not quite sure i buy that, but time will tell. 🤷🏼♀️⏳
*insert ‘sure jan’ GIF here*
You know what’s crazy? I used to LEGIT have so much compassion for all the teen mom cast. Literally the only person I could not stand was Maci. I had loads of compassion for Jenelle, Amber, C&T, Kailyn, all of them! I felt for them and understood they had issues and they were young and all this. But I was also young with issues and had a hard life. Unlike them, I grew up and worked on my issues. It seems like they all just sit around with their entitled, pompous attitude throwing stones at the people around them who DID choose to grow up or who just are decent people. It’s sickening. Truly ugly souls.
Maci?? For me….it’s Amber….UGH….absolutely NO compassion for that….woman.
So that’s why pictures and a video of her singing has been “leaked” recently. Shooting for a record deal makes that make sense.
A record deal? She sings at church, she’s not trying to be a pop star. Are you okay?
MANY famous singers got their start singing in church….from old singers like Patsy Cline to more modern day singers such as Jessica Simpson (she was trying to do Christian b4 pop but everyone told her she was “too sexy for Christian music”) Even today’s superstars like Morgan Wallen & Beyonce started in church….so YES church singing can lead to MAJOR fame!
Right because kids who sing at church never become pop stars, right?
American “Christians” are always on the up and up. I mean, just look who these upstanding people put in the White House.
Are you unaware of the existence of gospel singers/ bands? Because there is a huge market in Christian communities for singers who only sing gospel. Like??
They haven’t been leaked. They were posted by her church on the churches Facebook page
I agree. I think that’s why B&T wanted them to listen to it on air and not privately
Given what we’ve seen of B&T through the years, I doubt they filmed the song just to jump start Carly’s music career. This is most likely some sort of half-truth from Tyler and Catelynn.
Cate and Tyler: “we don’t want Carly, you can have her.”
Also Cate and Tyler: “but what we do want is full control, we WILL spend the next 16 years playing victims because of course you kidnapped our precious daughter that we love so much, even though you seem pure and wonderful and good, we will absolutely make you out to be monsters who took advantage of us because we were smart enough to understand the cycle of abuse and how we wanted to get Carly out of this mess, but when we are in our 30s we’ll somehow be too dumb to understand that we made an informed decision.”
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Girrrrl. They NEVER said they didn’t want her. They were teenagers with terrible home lives and addict parents. That’s a messed up thing to say, seriously. They wanted an open adoption, like they all agreed on. Placing a child for adoption thinking that you will get to be a part of their lives, having an agreement in place and then having that taken away is absolutely devastating.
Having C&T relentlessly bash them and constantly talk about them was not part of the deal. B&T made it clear they wanted privacy and didn’t want Carly’s business talked about on tv. C&T refused to follow the very simple guidelines they were given and have played the victim ever since. B&T are allowed to cut contact when C&T continue to behave in such a disrespectful manner.
EXACTLY!!
Adhering to that agreement (Cate and Ty) would have made a lot of difference. Instead, they chose to do whatever they wanted. They F’d around and FO.
How many times do you have to be told that an “open adoption” going by both your and C&T’s definition, is NOT actually a thing, nor is it what they signed up for.
These two literally got what they signed up for, the paperwork they signed puts it all out there (and yes, it’s difficult to read and sometimes accept as well). Everything is outlined, precisely as it should be, and then explained THOROUGHLY before they are even allowed to get to the pages where they sign. This isn’t something that happens in a matter of seconds or even hours, but rather days, weeks, months even in some cases. THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE GETTING, it’s exactly what they asked for.
The “open” aspect, which some people are really mislabeling, to be frank, is not complete autonomy to do as you wish once you’ve signed-but rather to follow the actual contract itself which you agreed to. They were given specific, and I do mean VERY specific instruction on what could happen, what would happen, what may happen, what they may or may not do, what they may or may not receive based on their own actions and/or inaction, etc.. as it relates to contact (and every other aspect). Have you ever looked at this forms before? I assure you, it’s a full on contract and it’s very well thought out, well presented, well explained. It sounds so cold and callous to call it a contract, but it is, and it has to be that way-to protect the child number one, but also to protect both birth and adoptive parents. There is literally no ambiguity at all, no way to misinterpret, they are legally binding with legal requirements they must all meet and all parties must agree and adhere to, full stop.
Brandon and Theresa have followed that contract to the letter, except for the one fact (which you and C&T are ignoring) that they allowed and encouraged further communication beyond the first five years of Carly’s life (which was specified in the contract, exactly). C&T were given MORE than they asked for, and it still wasn’t enough. In fact, they were given too much, because they took advantage of it and in doing so just ended up causing more grief and heartache for themselves, Brandon and Theresa and, most importantly, Carly.
FFS would you stop simping for them so hard on everything to the point you’re just making shit up as you go along?
Plus, I remember them reading the contract aloud, it said that the open aspect of the adoption was at the discretion of Brandon and Teresa. If they felt like Catelynn and Tyler’s fair-weathered involvement was doing more harm than good, then they were well within their right to close the adoption.
No rational or sane person would suggest or agree to an open adoption that’s only open for 5 years and then closes. That’s actually insane and not healthy for the child. I don’t know why you keep spreading that lie but it’s nuts. That was never the agreement. You literally made that up and won’t quit saying it. Repeating a lie multiple times doesn’t make it true.
This right here tells me you have still never actually even read up on adoption, much less had any firsthand experience, lol. Communication and contact are covered, completely, and agreed to by all parties involved (and if the child is older and able, they too get to weigh in on this) before anything is signed. The final discretion is always left up to the adoptive parents (and the child, if applicable, again usually dependent on their age) if there is ever any question as to whether or not contact is appropriate, helpful or harmful for the child. The child’s needs and wellbeing are top priority, regardless of what any of the adults involved want/need.
Yes, there are agreements where contact, if included at all, is limited for a specific time period. One of my children had limited contact (not with birth parent, but other biological family members) during a transition period only. That was set up and agreed upon for the best interests of the child (and something they wanted, as they were old enough to understand), and not anyone else. Some of my children the contact is merely photos or updates for X amount of years (and some, no specified time amount). If we decide at X amount of years that isn’t enough time, we’ll continue. If we decide that is enough time, or if ANYONE involved (most especially the child) is being harmed by continued contact, it will be cut. We’ve had to cut contact for the same reason Brandon and Theresa did before too. We had one child who was inching far too close to self-harm because continued contact from biological family was causing stress and anxiety while also making school life difficult. We have had birth parents/biological family decide that contact is too hard for them too (and it can be, honestly, they go through a lot too!), so it’s removed to protect them as much as it is the child. We’ve been through the whole spectrum of possibilities.
This is specified and made extremely clear to everyone. Just as if all contact is to be considered severed at the time of adoption, it’s also spelled out clearly. It isn’t remotely nuts, and it’s extremely common. The slightest amount of research would tell you this, but you’d prefer to triple down on your ignorance, rather than pay attention to people who actually have experience or knowledge. Ignorance isn’t inherently bad, it simply means you don’t understand, or have no experience with, a particular subject. It’s easily remedied by making an attempt at learning something new. Willful ignorance, however, which is what you display every single time a story about them comes up, is an intentional act on your part, you are choosing not to learn.
I really hope that in addition to spreading lies about Carly online that you are also lying about having a bunch of adopted kids. If you don’t understand the emotional toll of only allowing contact between an adopted child and their biological family for the first 5 years of their life and then cutting it for no real reason… You really need to study the psychological effects of family separation. This was an adoption done through a private adoption agency, not foster care. C&T didn’t lose custody because they were bad parents. They chose a better life for her with the agreement that they would still have contact: phone calls, letters, pictures and a yearly visit.
Contact was not cut “for no reason”. It was cut, as Cate herself has explained multiple times now, because it was detrimental to Carly. Cate herself has already said that Carly had cut contact with them, which lead her and Tyler to start contacting Theresa directly, which eventually lead to Brandon and Theresa getting angry with them when they refused to stop, so ALL contact was cut. That’s not me making anything up, it’s not lies, it’s literally something Cate herself said after claiming for months that they “didn’t know why” contact was cut-she eventually admitted they knew exactly why. Hell it’s even in one of the stories posted here, directly from Cate’s mouth on her social media. You didn’t like it when that was pointed out at the time either and refused to believe it, despite the fact that Cate herself (not me, not the site, not Brandon and Theresa, but CATE) said it.
You have literally no room whatsoever to explain adoption, the psychological effects, or really anything to anyone else when you clearly have absolutely no understanding yourself, and apparently don’t want to know. I know the toll it takes on EVERYONE, and that includes not just the child and adoptive parents, but also the biological family. This is a big part of why everyone has to be on the same page before an adoption can take place (and it doesn’t matter where it takes place, private agency, foster to adopt, a state controlled adoption at birth, a surrender at birth, etc.., they ALL have regulations, rules and legalities involved). I have adopted children at birth, children who were fostered first, children who were not fostered but were adopted at some point after birth, and I also have foster children who were not/will not be adopted because it’s not in their plan to do so. I speak from experience, and a LOT of it. I have over 2 decades of firsthand experience now under my belt, and that doesn’t even include the actual work I do.
I know the psychological effects of adoption, and they run the gambit, for everyone involved. I work directly with biological parents who have given up their children (for any number of reasons, not all bad) as well at times. I see it every single day in the work that I do. What C&T are doing is far more damaging than you seem to be willing to grasp, and I really don’t know why you refuse to understand this. I have seen the damage their kind of behavior can have on a child. I have seen the effects of varying levels of contact can have on a child-and the adults involved as well. I know it well. Sometimes contact being cut is detrimental (and that needs remedied in those cases), more often than not it’s beneficial in the end though, even if not beneficial for the adults or even the child immediately. I know that one of my children struggled a lot after contact had to be cut, despite the fact that the contact was the problem in the first place. It was hard for them to understand why contact had to be cut, or how damaging the contact actually was. It took a lot of work, patience, therapy and understanding to get this child to a place where they could better understand it. That child has since grown into an amazing adult, has a wonderful life and is doing awesome things. So, yes, I DO understand the effects, very much, and it isn’t even just psychological, it’s also physical.
Please stop pretending you know anything at all about it, lol, it’s weird. Do you really not see the things you type on here? You have stood by every asinine decision these two have made, all of which have been terribly harmful for Carly (and even the three girls they are raising!) and you seem to be proud of that fact. It’s a very weird stance you have on this, considering you have literally no knowledge at all about adoption.
You are STILL spreading lies online about a 16 year old child. No one who actually works with adopted children would act the way you are and say the things you’re saying. No where has it been posted on this website that Carly cut contact. Catelynn has never said that Carly cut contact. You are making up all kind of stories about a child!!!!!!! Are you okay? You seem to have serious issues.
These “don’t know what to believe now” comments are probably C&T or their bots, they’re just trying to sway people on their direction. They want the world to hate B&T but I personally just can’t. They were the best thing that ever happened to Carly if you ask me. C&T just want to drag Carly back to the depths of hell. None of it is about her. It’s about themselves and their need for control.
Caitlyn and Tyler are saying B&T wanted a show with MTV too but did not want it to be about the adoption. Huh? Do they want her noticed by music producers? It is MTV I have no clue what to believe now.
If they are going to air the negative, then they should also share the positive. Their daughter is having her picture passed around the internet by strangers, how long before her privacy is totally disrupted? Sadly, the way the world views them could put their family in danger.
C&T are still out here being despicable. Whoever believes anything these two dipahits say is an idiot.
I don’t actually believe much that comes out of their mouths. The funny thing about their statements is always that Tyler and Cate are the ones who want control and who try to manipulate. I don’t believe it was given to them, it was probably meant to show the world how wonderful Carly is after lengthy smear campaign C&T have ran against B&T.
Ooog, serious stop talking about Carly nonstop to the media you dingalings. Seriously stfu. Her parent told you no. Leave it be for gods sake
“We vow not to speak about Carly or her parents publicly” …..
As we release the letter we wrote to them on our social media accounts…
Of course B&T are keeping C from C&T, as they should. C is their daughter, not C&T’s, and Dr. Drew should have known better than refer to C as C&T’s. They effed things up on their own, Carly is better than great and doesn’t need their negativity in her life.
I really loathe these two idiots
But wait…..are you saying you DON’T think T is HOT??🤣🤣🤢🤮😬
Changing my mind bout adopted parents seems like their using Tyler and cate to get carly seen by music producers. That’s low down big time. I’d tell em to keep damn recording
Funny you’d believe anything C&T say without actually having proof Carly’s parents made that statement. Cmon. Don’t let em play you for a fool.
You’re really naive enough to believe two known liars? Life must be tough for you.
Yes. I’m starting to see why Ty and Cate are so vocal. The birth parents had the labor induced to grab that kid and run. They were never going to abide by that contract. Whoever was their proxy negotiating that adoption failed them.
They just facilitated contact and visits for a freaking decade because they were just going to take the kid and run??? LOL listen to yourself. If they wanted to close the adoption when Carly was one month old, they had every legal right to do so. They didn’t.
16 years later and they’re finally moving forward? These two are repulsive.
AND making demands that Brandon and Theresa do things THEIR..Cate and Tyler’s….way. The gall from these two losers.
Thank you. You just said exactly what I’ve been thinking from the start.
These two chuckleheads will be back on social media this weekend talking about how Memorial Day is reminding them of Carly.
lol chuckleheads
Chuckleheads……Nincompoops….